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AIBU or is ex husbands wife-to-be overstepping the mark?

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ElizabethHurleysSafetyPins · 11/07/2017 13:26

I am divorced, have 3 children with ex, and a very amicable (on the whole) relationship with him.

We have both moved on and have new partners, both happy. He is getting married to his GF at the end of this year.

She is younger than him, no kids of her own yet and is very fond of, and good with mine. However, I find her insensitive and a bit crass and over bearing at times. She is very opinionated, particularly regarding the kids. And she definitely wears the trousers in their relationship.

I will try and give some examples.

When she and ex had only been dating for a couple of months, she found and booked holiday activities / clubs for my kids. With his consent, it should be said, and on his time with them. But I didn't feel it was her place to do this when she had been around for such a short time.

She pressured my daughter to get a hair cut (she is 14) because she felt it needed it because of supposed split ends (there were hardly any!) My daughter was against a cut and wanted to grow it (I asked her what she wanted). My ex was texting me loads about it (like he has EVER given a jot about her hair!) and I said I wasn't happy and that if and when she (my daughter) wanted her hair cut I would sort it out, that the GF was absolutely not to organise it. A couple of weeks later daughter came back from a weekend at theirs with 3 inches lopped off and cried after she washed it as it bounced up even shorter (it is naturally curly so looked much shorter after the blow dry had been washed out).

She frequently dictates his emails / texts to me regarding arrangements / the kids / the money. I don't know if she physically gets hold of his phone, or whether she dictates and he writes it, but I know my ex and I know his tone and turn of phrase and I can spot a GF email a mile off. Plus, she has tripped herself up when talking to me and repeated, verbatim an opinion SHE has about something that I have already had via text /email from my ex husband (supposedly).

The children have all said that she is very lovely and nice to them, but when she doesn't get her way (and it can be over something REALLY trivial) she literally sulks for the entire day. Staying in a closed room and not coming out sort of thing. Their Dad tip toeing around her and trying to cajole her out of it. Sometimes it has lasted all weekend and the kids hate the atmosphere. Once, she took to her bedroom and stayed there all day because she was excited about wanting to make a thai beef salad for lunch for them all and my kids hate thai and asked politely whether they could have something else.

(I should say here that my eldest is 20 and he has witnessed all of this, so it is not coming from a little child who may have misinterpreted things)

I had a recent request from my ex about something. We had a discussion over a cuppa, and we agreed the route forward. I specifically said I would ONLY agree to what he was proposing as long as the children were not told. He totally agreed that was the right thing, and proper way to do things. That very evening the GF announced to the children over dinner in a very showy 'I have something I want to tell you' way. I KNOW my ex and I know that he has allowed her to over rule on this because in her opinion her way is the best way. I feel she deliberately undermined me.

Writing this they all sound like minor things and in the bigger picture I know that they are and that the kids being happy around her and her caring about them and making them feel welcome are the most important thing.

Maybe she will back off a bit when she has her own
?

Should I get a grip??

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CheeseOfHearts · 11/07/2017 14:50

What on earth is up with all the 'she's 14, let her deal with it' posts? She's not an adult. Teenagers still need support from their parents. She was bullied and pressured into doing something she didn't want by what sounds like a very emotionally manipulative adult. That's not ok, and no, the way to deal with it isn't to tell her she needs to stick up for herself. She's still a child. Her stepmum is an adult in a position of some power over her (since Dd dad is allowing her to dictate what happens with his kids). In that situation it's very difficult to stand up for yourself. OP, YANBU. Your kids still need you to stick up for them if they're unhappy.

7thInningStretch · 11/07/2017 15:01

I think you need to look at from a position of what can actually control. There's no point in working yourself up over things happening that you can't control. Your ex chose who he chose. No court would look at the examples you gave and give even one stuff. I'd work on supporting your kids and help them to be more assertive in their relationship with the GF. You having a word with the ex will lead to nothing good but it will lead to all sorts of bad feelings from the GF.

Being a stepmother is tricky business and I bet this lady will chill out as time goes on or if she doesn't your kids will be nearly grown. Is there a chance she will have her own kids? If so, she won't be fussing over who has split ends once she has a newborn. But you will forever share a set of half-siblings.

You need to remember that your kids even your 20 year will be very very aware of your feelings and it will colour everything they tell you and the way in which they tell you. So I would take it all with a pinch of salt. By your admission your ex is a good father and loves his kids. The GF is trying in her own way. Help your kids be more assertive and leave the rest alone.

ElizabethHurleysSafetyPins · 11/07/2017 15:03

Here's another one.

GF's friends hold a big rounders' match once a year, on a Saturday, with a picnic. Last year they all went to it.

DD was anxious not to miss her horse riding lesson that evening. Ex and GF promised her they would be back in time and she wouldn't miss it. They promised.

The match over ran and DD got more and more worried about her horse riding. Ex kept telling her, up until the last minute that they would be back in time.

Eventually, he told her that they were staying at the rounders and wouldn't make it.

DD was 13, and sat down and cried. She felt let down. She lives for her horse riding.

GF was mad with DD for crying and DIDN'T SPEAK TO HER for the rest of the weekend!

DD said the atmosphere was so awful that the next day, on the Sunday SHE apologised to the GF for getting upset over her missed lesson. GF was still off with her for the rest of the day. DD said she didn't want to apologise, but just wanted the terrible atmosphere to stop. Son was upset about it too.

Funnily enough, DD is now refusing to go this year to the rounders and staying with me so I can take her to horse riding!

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diddl · 11/07/2017 15:04

" and allowed GF to pressure DD."

That's the problem, isn't it?

He can't say no to her-how the hell is a 14yr old supposed to?

He's not a good dad!

Perhaps they'll vote with their feet & then he'll realise!

Lemonnaise · 11/07/2017 15:08

Her behavior is already having an impact on their relationship with their Dad then if DD isn't going to the family rounders day. I would bet my life on it, the kids won't be wanting to go to his house for weekends soon. Maybe then he'll find his balls.

cochineal7 · 11/07/2017 15:13

Annoying but at the end of the day all you can do is arm your children with ways to stand up for themselves (in general, not just to this woman). For the rest, you will have to let go as it will get under your skin and that's just not worth it. She seems childish sulking, but I am sure your kids will figure that out by themselves if they haven't already. And by the sound of the horse- affair, your DD has caught on...

notanurse2017 · 11/07/2017 15:13

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Dibbles1967 · 11/07/2017 15:14

ExDH probably likes it that GF is taking an "interest". You need to actually have a conversation with her about this. Set some boundaries. DC are old enough now that they can decide for themselves if they want to visit or not.

The GF sulking for ANY length of time would be a red flag. Did I read that right? that she is only 11 years older than one of your DC?

Each to their own, but whilst she's making an effort of sorts, she shouldn't be dictating. Take the lead & set some boundaries.

ElizabethHurleysSafetyPins · 11/07/2017 15:18

notanurse2017

No, she is not a singer! This made me lol!

It is a childish line from the film 'Ted' - me and my kids say it sometimes when someone is being OTT or pushy.

(note...NOT in relation to their step-mum to be - it's a common joke in our circle)

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ginnystonic · 11/07/2017 15:23

She sounds very bossy! But at least your DC like her, and she seems to care about them (even if it's in bit of a controlling way)

I think you should try and not let her annoy you too much, it's EXh who needs to 'dance to her tune' not you, thank goodness.

Definitely work on helping the younger two DC learn how to be more assertive, teach them that 'no' is a complete sentence! Also help them not feel intimidated by sulking behaviour, and not feel guilt if they politely and respectfully stand up for themselves (it doesn't sound like Exh is capable of standing up for them, they will need to do it themselves)

CardinalCat · 11/07/2017 15:24

The GF/fiancee sounds like a bit of a sulky madam (although, explaining what type of man your ex is, I wonder if she is worried about her relationship and generally insecure? How low would your self esteem have to be to willingingly walk into marriage with a setrial cheater who has already done the dirty on you befre even making it down the aisle???) I feel abit sorry for her, and I'm sorry that your lovely kids have to witness her silly behaviour during their visits.

However, I do think that this is the kind of minutiae that you could just tie yourself in knots over, and for no real benefit to anyone. I would try to turn a blind eye for now. It will all either implode in their marriage, or they'll get along just fine, and either way your children will soon all be adults who can make their own decisions about their relationship with her/ him going forward.

eyebrowsonfleek · 11/07/2017 15:26

She is totally overstepping but you can't do anything as your ex is allowing her to control the mood. All you can do is to be there for the kids and expect them to skip more contact visits.

Winterc00kie · 11/07/2017 15:35

Hmmm to be fair my ex'ps is very controlling, 12 years younger than him (22 to be exact) and she marries him next month. I'm happy for him but i know her conrolling behaviour has cause massive arguments in his family etc. as long as it isnt hurting my daughter, there is nothing much i can do. And yes we are very amicable.

My dp's ex used to be very very spoilt and controlling though, gosh things i can tell your are bizarre.....

AvoidingCallenetics · 11/07/2017 15:48

After the horse riding thing, I'd not let my children go to access visits on the grounds that their father is allowing his gf to emotionally abuse them. Sulking all day and refusing to talk to an 11 year old is disgusting behaviour.

diddl · 11/07/2017 15:53

" she seems to care about them "

Does she though?

Unless she thinks that Op's daughter's life will be ruined by split ends!

Sulking because Op's daughter was upset about missing horseriding.

KimmySchmidt1 · 11/07/2017 15:54

"However, I find her insensitive and a bit crass and over bearing at times. She is very opinionated, particularly regarding the kids. And she definitely wears the trousers in their relationship."

She may well be those things, but you're not marrying her are you, so its something you're just going to have to put up with or get away from unfortunately.

Huskylover1 · 11/07/2017 16:01

I would go ape shit, if someone forced my DD to get a haircut and it made her cry. Stupid, controlling cowbag!

Love the Susan Boyle quip.

MargaretTwatyer · 11/07/2017 16:06

Actually I think your daughter behaved extremely badly over the horse riding. Expecting someone to leave a big annual event they are hosting so that you don't have to miss ONE lesson is incredibly rude.

Willyoujustbequiet · 11/07/2017 16:06

yanbu

she sounds controlling and manipulative. After the horse riding incident I would be backing your dd if she wanted to stop contact. She's 14 no court would force her

MargaretTwatyer · 11/07/2017 16:08

Sulking because Op's daughter was upset about missing horseriding.

I think she was probably annoyed that a teenager who is easily old enough to know better threw a tantrum and caused an embarrassment in front of her friends.

Huskylover1 · 11/07/2017 16:08

Disagree with that Margaret The DD was promised she would be back in time, and then they broke that promise. With hindsight, the Ex should have said "hopefully we'll be back in time, but I can't guarantee it". And she was 13 at the time. Just a child.

ElizabethHurleysSafetyPins · 11/07/2017 16:13

MargaretTwatyer

Promising a child that attending the rounders (not her thing at all - the GF's thing) would not stop her attending her lesson, then continuing to tell her as the evening got closer that she will definitely will still be going, then letting her down at the last minute is good parenting, no?

Which is why she won't go in future. She never wanted to go in the first place, wanted to stay with me but ex assured her that she could do both.

Then sulking at a 13 year old for the rest of the weekend and ruining her time at her fathers' - that's behaving extremely badly IMHO. Like a spoilt child!

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SoupDragon · 11/07/2017 16:15

I think she was probably annoyed that a teenager who is easily old enough to know better threw a tantrum and caused an embarrassment in front of her friends.

She didn't throw a tantrum though.

SenseiWoo · 11/07/2017 16:16

Who drags a 14 year old to the hairdresser when it isn't even necessary? It does sound as though GF wants to be The One Who Decides.

All irritating, but I agree with others that the best thing is to empower the children to shake off GF's unreasonable interference and her sulks.

I would also want the 20 year old to have a car and just be able to drive your DD to the riding lesson in your example, or just bring them home generally if the sulks get too much.

mamma12 · 11/07/2017 16:20

People on here are so rude! Fancy telling you to "get a grip" and they don't even know you.

She sounds very annoying. It's good that she is nice to your children but disrespectful to you cutting your daughter's hair if (presumably) she knew you'd said not to.

She sounds immature from what you've said.