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To wonder if social services are involved?

224 replies

HickDead · 05/07/2017 19:14

I'll probably get flamed for this but finding the whole situation desperately sad for the child(ren?) involved. Who does this and in the full glare of the media too, I'm getting that they are two damaged individuals but come on, this is awful if true!

www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.co.uk/2017/07/05/jeremy-mcconnell-confirms-stephanie-davis-pregnancy-and-truth-behind-horrific-hotel-fight-6756942/amp/

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MeanAger · 05/07/2017 20:12

I suspect SS will be involved. They have an existing child and there is documented violence between the parents.

Without going into too much detail my son has a SW who facilitates meetings between me and my EXp. Exps wife is pregnant. During one meeting EXp became verbally aggressive with me. The SW informed me afterwards that what she had witnessed had raised a flag regarding the safety of his unborn child and that she would now have to put the child under some sort of plan and carry out assessments to see whether the child was safe to be brought to their home after it is born.

WillRikersExtraNipple · 05/07/2017 20:14

No, I'm not kidding. If a woman chooses to drink when pregnant that his her own affair. Her body, her choice.

DearMrDilkington · 05/07/2017 20:14

Social servives must be involved by now. I can't think what possessed them to bring another baby into this mess.

So selfish.

PalomaViolets · 05/07/2017 20:14

I'd say there's more than alcohol involved.

AdalindSchade · 05/07/2017 20:15

No, I'm not kidding. If a woman chooses to drink when pregnant that his her own affair. Her body, her choice

The children act disagrees with you thankfully

We get involved with pregnant women who have addiction issues to try to get them the support they need before the baby is born, to maximise their chances of keeping the baby in their care and being the best mum they can be. Evil huh?

HoneyIshrunktheBiscuit · 05/07/2017 20:17

There's a distributive difference between a glass of wine whilst pregnant and getting so drunk you beat up your partner.

FrankiesKnuckle · 05/07/2017 20:17

I've said on another thread, vacuous shitwits the pair of them who should be thoroughly ashamed and embarrassed of their behavior.

MeanAger · 05/07/2017 20:17

If those photos are genuine then I would say she is around 4/5 months pregnant. Sounds like she got pregnant when the baby was only a month or two old.

ClarkWGriswold · 05/07/2017 20:18

Will are you being deliberately goady or are your really that much of a fuckwit

MusicForTheJiltedGeneration · 05/07/2017 20:18

Oh dear lord I didn't actually read the link, I based my comment on a picture I saw of him yesterday.

She's pregnant again to that waste of skin?

crazycatgal · 05/07/2017 20:19

Why do people like this keep having kids? Children don't need bringing into the middle of these vile idiots.

abbsisspartacus · 05/07/2017 20:19

Foetal alcohol syndrome

leccybill · 05/07/2017 20:19

She lives near me.
They are completely out of control now. Poor little lad, I hope he wasn't at the hotel with them.
Why was she in London anyway, I don't think she has any acting work at the moment (and who would take her on now).

MusicForTheJiltedGeneration · 05/07/2017 20:20

What the fuck was she doing drinking all day and getting into fights if she's pregnant? Shock

Disgusting woman.

WillRikersExtraNipple · 05/07/2017 20:21

Will are you being deliberately goady or are your really that much of a fuckwit

Yes, I'm that much of a fuckwit because I believe women are not vessels and can do whatever they choose to their own bodies, pregnant or otherwise.
There are a lot of us fuckwits about, you'll find. Hmm

littlemissM92 · 05/07/2017 20:22

Disgusting

QuiteLikely5 · 05/07/2017 20:24

Yes will it is her choice but a consequence of abusing your mind and body with substances whilst pregnant is the wrath of police and social work

ClarkWGriswold · 05/07/2017 20:27

will yes obviously you are. So because we are "not vessels" women should be allowed to do what they want even if that means harming their baby? You don't think anything should be done if a baby is born with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome or addicted to heroin? Got pregnant, had the baby, baby born with severe disabilities/dependencies but it's no one else's business.

Jesus Christ I hope I don't know you in real life

WillRikersExtraNipple · 05/07/2017 20:28

yes, AFTER the pregnancy is over. Not before.
And no, the Childrens Act does not disagree with me at all. Addiction help is offered in pregnancy, not forced.

Whether anyone likes the choices people like that make, they are theirs to make. They have to be.

WillRikersExtraNipple · 05/07/2017 20:29

So because we are "not vessels" women should be allowed to do what they want even if that means harming their baby?

Yes, of course I do. So do you if you stop frothing for a second and think about it. How would you propose to stop them?

Squirmy65ghyg · 05/07/2017 20:30

What is your stance on illegal drug taking when pregnant Will?

MusicForTheJiltedGeneration · 05/07/2017 20:31

Will have you seen the consequences of foetal alcohol syndrome? Why would you wish that on a child just so that their mother can get wasted Sad

ClarkWGriswold · 05/07/2017 20:31

In case you missed it she has a 6 month old baby. She obviously has some alcohol or substance abuse problems. SS will be all over her like a cheap suit and thank God!

Plink42 · 05/07/2017 20:33

These 2 especially her will do anything to keep in the public eye & the media.
The media are guilty of making stupid ppl famous!
The way they both behave is disgusting, they shud both be humiliated & ashamed when they have a 6 mth old baby.
No doubt she will rear her ugly head on 'This Morning' sumtime soon

Nannplum666 · 05/07/2017 20:34

WillRikers As an adoptive mother of 2 children who suffer with FASD I totally disagree with you.
The long term impacts on unborn children as well known and its not pretty Angry