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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To find this wedding invitation a bit insulting

276 replies

user1498921160 · 02/07/2017 15:49

I've been invited to a friend's wedding. The invitation states I've been invited to the marriage ceremony at 2pm and to the evening celebration at 8pm.

Another friend has also received an invitation which is the standard one to the marriage ceremony 'followed by a reception at.......'.

The wedding is twenty miles from where we live so obviously we're expected to kick our heels for the five hours or so between the end of the ceremony and the start of the evening celebration.

AIBU to find this a bit insulting?

OP posts:
Rioja123 · 03/07/2017 17:43

Rude! Can't believe people do this

Enidblyton1 · 03/07/2017 17:46

I don't think you should feel insulted. One of my university friends did this. For her the ceremony was the most important part of the whole celebration (she is v religious). So she naturally wanted everyone to be at the church. She couldn't afford for everyone to have the wedding breakfast, so many of her university friends spend a happy few hours together in their old university town before going to the party in the evening.
Of course, if the town means nothing to you and you don't have others to spend the afternoon with, I can see hanging around for 5 hours would be annoying. But I really wouldn't be insulted by the invitation. You don't HAVE to go to both parts. Just pick what suits you and enjoy!

neverdull · 03/07/2017 17:50

It's nice they invited you to both! I've been to a few weddings where we have had to entertain ourself between the ceremony and evening! If it's a problem just go to the evening! They are trying not to exclude you so take it as a compliment !

bbismad · 03/07/2017 17:57

No you're not BU. Its really rude... people seem to make the day so much about themselves that normal manners go out the window. Don't understand it and I'd never do it myself...

exaltedwombat · 03/07/2017 17:57

A wedding invitation is rarely intended as an insult. Go into this situation with that attitude.

DagenhamRoundhouse · 03/07/2017 17:58

don't weddings sound exhausting - and seem to cause more stress than anything!

Cockadoodledooo · 03/07/2017 18:01

Um. We did this to our guests 20 years ago.
We had a number of friends we wanted to invite from uni, but I also have a large close family. Everyone was invited to the service, and the meal immediately after was for family. We'd already discussed it with our friends who would be coming some distance and, as you say, kicking their heels in the afternoon so I guess it wasn't a surprise when they received the invitation, unlike with op. None were bothered. In fact, on the day they went on a group outing they organised themselves and had a great time (such a good time some were late for the evening do!). Evening do started at 6 so relatively early for that kind of thing I gather.

prawntail · 03/07/2017 18:04

Exactly same thing happened to me except I did not realise until everyone left church shouting 'see you later' I was one of only two people
Invited to ceremony and reception but not meal. I went to the cinema as had nothing else to do and when I came out could not be arsed to go to reception. Thought it all very odd. It was a big church so maybe they had to fill it.

Cockadoodledooo · 03/07/2017 18:04

In our case the breakfast (why tf is it called that anyway? It's a full meal in the afternoon Confused) was at a different place to the evening do. Don't know if that makes a difference.

puddingpen · 03/07/2017 18:04

I will never ever understand the Mumsnet attitude to weddings. Most people cannot afford to have hundreds of people to the breakfast and have to prioritise family. I have been invited to evening dos for some friends/ cousins. I was honoured to be included. For all of them I was also invited to the ceremony. Why not? There is room, so you can go. To not invite you would be rude, and if I couldn't be bothered to go for a pub lunch in between (can't ever imagine this - as a student it was a Wetherspoons!) I would have just gone for the evening.

Slimthistime · 03/07/2017 18:04

Dagenham "don't weddings sound exhausting"

they usually are IME! I would love to live the rest of my life without attending one but sadly it seems unlikely.

maddogs33 · 03/07/2017 18:04

Poor form, if you can't afford to feed your guests don't invite them. I see a wedding as a big party, the bride and groom are hosting and its down to them to ensure their guests have a good time. If you don't care enough about some of your guests that you aren't prepared to feed them then don't invite them!

Its harsh but just as paying for a wedding is expensive, going to a wedding can be equally expensive, I want my guests to have a fabulous time, that would be my priority. Day vs Evening is basically saying i'm too cheap to pay for your dinner but please come along later.

If I received an evening invite I would decline as you obviously aren't close or you would be at the main day!

sodablackcurrant · 03/07/2017 18:10

Dagenham,

Weddings can be problematic. It is no one's fault, they just can be for many reasons.

It can be financial, it can be distance, it can be staying over, it can be taking precious annual leave, it can be arranging child care, it can be anything that might cause a guest some problems.

Everyone thinks weddings are such wonderful things, and they are, but I sometimes wish they would feck off and just elope. I'm talking destination weddings, and broken up days like OPs issue.

The formula gets me too. So boring. But of course I will be told I am a typical MNetter moaner. Maybe I am. But I know what I like and what works for me. The B+G don't care about me personally really, how could they. And that is not meant to be spiteful it is reality.

NoPressureNoDiamonds · 03/07/2017 18:16

I've had this and though it was bizarre. In the end some people couldn't make the whole thing so we got bumped to being invited to the meal too. Otherwise there's no way we would have gone to the ceremony then say about for hours; we'd have just gone to the reception.

SoupDragon · 03/07/2017 18:23

I think it's really sad that some people think an evening invitation is rude and an insult. When did everyone become so precious? Evening invitations were usual when I and my friends nd siblings were getting married.

SoupDragon · 03/07/2017 18:26

I'm just glad I never getting married again! There seem to be so many ways in which guests can get offended.

bimbobaggins · 03/07/2017 18:28

No one is saying an evening invite is rude and an insult. They are saying it is rude to be invited to the ceremony, basically told to bugger off because they are not important enough for a meal and then invited back to a party. I thought that was abundantly clear .
I've had many evening invites that I've been happy to attend but never have I seen an invite with ceremony and evening only

Bambi3112 · 03/07/2017 18:30

i have attended a ceremony, gone home for a few hours and then gone to evening. Though I lived close by, otherwise I perhaps wouldn't have gone to both. I didn't think much of it tbh. The couple just had family to the breakfast. It's nice to be invited to both.

I am now in the middle of arranging my own wedding and am way over my number limit. So am considering this as a possibility. Id like to invite everyone to the whole thing but simply can't afford it. Weddings are just so expensive. That said, I don't expect my guests who are traveling to entertain themselves for a few hours so will be invited to the whole day.
Being in this position now makes me appreciate how difficult it is when it comes to weddings and see things differently. It's an honour that people invite you to share such a big day with them.
I wouldn't see it as a reflection on my relationship with them.

Slimthistime · 03/07/2017 18:34

bimbo "They are saying it is rude to be invited to the ceremony, basically told to bugger off because they are not important enough for a meal and then invited back to a party. I thought that was abundantly clear ."

this is exactly it. It isn't "evening invites are rude". The rudeness is in the expectation - and yes I've had this, as a summons not an invitation - that you will be there at the church to swell the adoring crowd and then again at the evening do - but dog forbid they feed you in between.

as pp have said, there is a way of phrasing it on the invite that can make it clearer, but certainly the ones I've been invited to that way have involved long explanations of how much I am wanted at the church and the evening do but how problematic it is to feed me because of Great Aunt Mabel and then a list of things I could do for 5 hours inbetween.

as I said, I did it once when I was too young to know better but decided never to do it again. The worst thing was, the meal overran, so we arrived for the reception and were told by venue staff that we had to sit in the lobby. At this point, we realised there were about 6 of us. Of course we don't know who refused the invitation all together, but really, they couldn't find the money to feed 6 of us but they could find the money for what I know the bride spent on her dress?

The couple did email us the following day apologising - we'd waited about 45 minutes in the lobby - and saying "with hindsight we should have handled this differently" so props to them for that.

but as I say, I don't feel the need to attend the wedding of an acquaintance anyway, so now any reception invites are refused. I have had a few people ask why I can't attend though. I invent a wedding I'm already invited to. Save the Date is binned immediately. Unless you're one of my 5 or so closest friends, I don't see why I need to be there.

KentMum2008 · 03/07/2017 18:36

Things like this are the exact reason why DH and I got married in a registry office, with immediate family only and had lunch afterwards. We wanted to get married because we love each other and wanted to make a lasting commitment, I had no intention of worrying about anyone else's wishes. We had the most important people there and that was it. And it was a stress free, utterly perfect day.

Slimthistime · 03/07/2017 18:39

mango - I can't understand why more people don't do what you did - even barring family and just having witnesses. The wedding is about the couple.

Mind you, I've sat through some odd stuff from priests/vicars/whatever about how the job of the friends is to support the marriage Confused

sodablackcurrant · 03/07/2017 18:41

mangomay.

Sounds wonderful. Some weddings are becoming quite bizarre these days with huge expectations on both the side of the couple and the guests.

Yours sounds perfect.

Dieu · 03/07/2017 18:54

What a piece of bloody nonsense, OP. YADNBU. Wine

origamiwarrior · 03/07/2017 19:03

There clearly is an A and a B list going on, and you're on the B list, but the fact they've extended the invite to the ceremony doesn't make being on the B list any worse - they are trying to accommodate you by offering as many options as they can (and since you you have now decided that you would prefer to go just to the ceremony, do you not see the irony that had they done what you seem to think is more 'appropriate' and just invited you to the evening do, it would have been evening do or fuck all, so not your preferred option at all)

KentMum2008 · 03/07/2017 19:20

I think the issue is that weddings have become for show more than anything else. We didn't even tell anyone (other than the people invited) until it had happened. I posted a pic of me and DH in all our wedding attire and then turned my phone off to enjoy the rest of the day!
It was about us, and only us. I'm actually getting a bit misty eyed thinking about it, I wish we could do it all over again.