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Or is toast with honey a perfectly acceptable breakfast for a 4yo?

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n0ne · 28/06/2017 07:00

Just that, really. DD(4) is asking for toast with honey for breakfast. DH is telling her she can't have it. I ask why, he says it's just pure sugar and looks at me like I've got two heads. Surely toast with honey is a perfectly normal breakfast option? It's not like she eats it every day (or in fact ever before).

DH is foreign, if that makes a difference. He has some really weird (to me) ideas about what is and isn't an acceptable meal Hmm

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Clalpolly · 28/06/2017 09:37

Ps - I stick local honey in all sorts for dd.

newbian · 28/06/2017 09:37

noeffingidea bread does not have enough protein to keep me full for more than an hour or two max. Obviously I know it has some (gluten is a protein) but a better breakfast would be toast with cheese, nut butter, etc. to help keep a child full until lunch.

I have no problem with toast, my worry is a rumbling tummy at 10 AM.

Clandestino · 28/06/2017 09:43

It's a perfectly normal and healthy breakfast, especially considering that proper honey has other benefits than nutrition too.
Also, I believe that people are overdoing it with sugar-phobia right now. WTF are you feeding your children, people? Avocado mash and straw?

Gileswithachainsaw · 28/06/2017 09:44

If she has school/nursery no

If she's home and you can give her a snack in a bit go for it.

bbpp · 28/06/2017 09:45

Just wanted to add that while there's 4.4g of sugar in 100g of weetabix - a serving (2 biscuits) is only 37.5g. There's 1.7g of sugar in a normal portion.

1.7g vs 6g. Much less than honey. Or haribos.

Not that I think it particularly matters. Everything in moderation. Smile

Squishedstrawberry4 · 28/06/2017 09:45

He's right it is pure sugar. If you want to avoid your child having a sweet tooth at breakfast, maybe alternate with better things like an egg on toast

Buttercup12233 · 28/06/2017 09:46

My 4 year old had it for breakfast today along with a bowl of fruit.

TheTurnOfTheScrew · 28/06/2017 09:47

he he - I KNEW the carb-deniers would be out in force.

breakfast is whatever I can shovel down them fast. Today one DC had toast (it wasn't even wholemeal bread Shock) and peanut butter, with a glass of juice.

A balanced diet doesn't mean over-analysing the micro-nutrients of every meal. If they're eating a range of food types over the day (or even across the week) then you're doing fine, and certainly better than me as child .

FidgetSpinner · 28/06/2017 09:47

Who thought toast and honey could be such a contentious issue......

MsHooliesCardigan · 28/06/2017 09:49

Fidget are you new here? Just be thankful the OP wasn't asking if coco pops were OK now and again. That would have led to Armageddon Smile

ArgyMargy · 28/06/2017 09:52

Breakfast cereal is the work of the devil. Honey is the work of those lovely lovely bees without which we will all eventually die.

BigYellowJumper · 28/06/2017 09:52

Some of you seriously think toast and honey is a 'treat' breakfast but Rice Krispies is nutritious?

No wonder so many British people are constantly on diets but remain obese. The lack of knowledge about what is and isn't good for you is amazing.

supermoon100 · 28/06/2017 09:52

We eat that loads in our house. All my kids are fit, well and slim and no fillings, me too. Chill out with stuff like this, life is too short.

grasspigeons · 28/06/2017 09:53

I don't think white bread with a sugary topping is the best daily breakfast, just like I'd not be impressed with coco pops each day. I think it's ok a couple of times a week though.

It's not about weight I just know I get starving very quickly if I have a sugary breakfast and get a bit grumpy. That whole GI thing seems relevant in our house.

CiderwithBuda · 28/06/2017 09:53

As others have all said it isn't great. It's sugar. But I don't think saying no is great either.

I would let her have it but only if she has some protein too. Maybe a slice of toast with peanut butter of Philadelphia or cheese on one half and honey on the other. Or just the toast with honey IF she eats an egg or some cheese or a yoghurt first.

noeffingidea · 28/06/2017 09:55

newbian not everyone's the same as you though. Many people manage to survive quite happily for 3 or 4 hours on a couple of slices of toast and honey or marmalade. 2 slices of wholemeal toast (9.5 gs of protein) is actually quite a reasonable amount for what is a small meal, especially with a glass of milk.
Someone upthread mentioned the common Dutch breakfast of bread and butter with sugar sprinkles. I believe they are one of the healthiest nations in the world, so I guess they are doing something right, nutritionally.

newbian · 28/06/2017 09:58

noeffingidea I really don't think my opinion is that contentious, please pick a fight with someone who actually said toast and honey is evil.

keepingonrunning · 28/06/2017 10:02

Does DH normally take an interest in what family members are eating and the preparation of it? Is he qualified in nutrition or have in-depth knowledge because of his work?
Or does he have a tendency to be controlling?

Whathaveilost · 28/06/2017 10:08

But then having the same breakfast every day isn't ideal
Why not oblomov?

I have had the same breakfast for years and years
Greek yogurt with some fruit either pineapple, blueberries, banana or mango and honey.
I started having it after I came back from Greece when I was 23 and I'm 52 now.
If, for some reason, it's not available to me I'd rather skip breakfast.
However the day doesn't feel right unless I've had thi meal.

I have plenty of variety in my other 2 meals so what is the problem?

Clandestino · 28/06/2017 10:10

This thread should be printed out and made a lecture about the First World Problems.
Crisps or chocolate bars, I take it. But toast with honey considered inappropriate for children? Jesus wept.
Btw, for all GI-phobics. A good quality honey has lower GI than sugar.
And if the British are so obsessed with nutrition and healthy diets, how come do they belong to the most obese nations in Europe?

Ohmyfuck · 28/06/2017 10:13

If my kids have it, it's only on a Saturday. It really is not a great breakfast. We normally have weetabix. It doesn't matter every now and then though.

Whathaveilost · 28/06/2017 10:13

Or does he have a tendency to be controlling?
Oh here's we go , rolling out the C word because a DH has expressed an opinion.
Blimey, most of us on here aren't nutritionist but plenty are saying how they won't allow foods or only allow it every Preston Guild! Are they controlling or just expressing how they want their kids to be fed?

MrsMarigold · 28/06/2017 10:14

if it is locally sourced honey it can protect against hay fever.

hoddtastic · 28/06/2017 10:17

if mine are having toast for breakfast with nothing else i let them have it with eggs, beans or cheese. I wouldn't give them a couple of slices of toast with sugar on (jam/honey/nutella)

If they've already had some porridge/cereal for breakfast they can have it with Jam on but only give them half a slice each.

Breakfast here is pancakes with lemon, porridge or cereal, fruit, toast with above toppings, crumpets or croissants and very occasionally we'll do a bacon/sausage and eggs/mushrooms/beans/hash brown.

reuset · 28/06/2017 10:19

Fine if you're not eating it every single day, and on white or brown bread.

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