Or is toast with honey a perfectly acceptable breakfast for a 4yo?

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Just that, really. DD(4) is asking for toast with honey for breakfast. DH is telling her she can't have it. I ask why, he says it's just pure sugar and looks at me like I've got two heads. Surely toast with honey is a perfectly normal breakfast option? It's not like she eats it every day (or in fact ever before).

DH is foreign, if that makes a difference. He has some really weird (to me) ideas about what is and isn't an acceptable meal

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I love these competitive food threads.

Thats lees sugar but imo some puffed bits of cereal have considerably less overall nutrition than a slice of taost and honey.
Plus its not v filling as a start to the day.
If DS had rice crispies for breakfast he'd be hungry again half an hour later.

I just don't see cereal as a decent breakfast, in this house it's a late night snack!

But anyway, it's not the point.

Abit of honey on toast is a perfectly acceptable breakfast.

Eat everything you like in moderation.

So long as it's an overall healthy diet, cereal, honey, jam and even haribo has it's place in it.

That's it.

I would far rather my children had honey on wholemeal toast than a packet of Haribo. Wholemeal bread, a bit of butter and some honey is not lacking in nutrition or fibre. Some people really do go OTT in their obsessions. It's like the old well woman and well man clinics GPs used to be required to run - lots of neurotic fitness freaks turned up to them and the couch potatoes didn't bother. Moderation in everything, not a pathetic ban on honey for breakfast, I say!

I like my kids to eat cereal because I like them to have the milk for the calcium and protein. They don't drink milk. Therefore I think as it's both lower sugar and higher in other good things then it's a healthier option than honey on toast. I certainly wouldn't ban honey on toast but not every day. Horses for courses- as long as it's not skittles and cola then it's probably not worth getting too worked up about!

Ours have wholemeal toast with butter and the tiniest amount of honey (3 and 1). They also have banana/porridge/yoghurt for breakfast. Mind you sometimes they also have McDonalds (not for breakfast) but I'm pretty relaxed about stuff as long as it isn't too regular.
I am in a constant battle the other way with DP. He doesn't see the problem with feeding them pure sugar all day and I have to try and limit the amount of complete crap they eat.

Orthorexia is alive and well on MN!

God, isn't it just.

Oh NO My two children have toast with various spreads almost every morning.
I never thought to worry about it-they do eat lots of fruit and yogurts-Veg is a different ballgame!

I have very much enjoyed expat's rage!

Breakfast is usually shit in this country, from a "balanced meal" perspective. But in the context of the whole diet, it usually works out OK if you're eating relatively healthily.

Today, DC1 ate some fruit & nut mini Weetabix with milk, a cup of warm milk, a hot cross bun with jam.
DC2 ate some own brand Rice Krispies and milk, a cup of cold milk, and a hot cross bun with peanut butter.

Both nutritionally poor in different ways if you pick it apart maybe - sugar! carbs followed by carbs! cow's milk not alternative! boxed cereal!

Or both OK if you think they both had dried fruit, carbs, protein in milk and nuts, and will later on eat fresh fruit & veg, drink mostly water, have a variety of different stuff in their diets.

Honey here gets put on toast, Weetabix, natural yoghurt, porridge, waffles- you name it. Bees produce it, it's a pretty good natural source of sweetness that is much less refined than cane sugar (or Haribos!) It's not the work of the devil, and I honestly don't believe everyone's children are eating perfectly nutritionally balanced meals 100% of the time. It's the overall diet and attitude to food that's important.

Mine had croissants this morning. With jam.

Not much nutrition there. But delicious!

OP, NEVER EVER EVER start a thread on Mumsnet asking about your child's diet. You will always get told 'too many carbs', 'where's the protein?' 'That's just pure sugar' and generally told that you are slowly killing your child.
The only foods that you are allowed to feed your child without someone criticising you are organic grilled chicken, free range eggs, avocado and Brazil nuts. That's it. Everything else is poisonous.
According to Mumsnet, all cereals are 'shit in a box' and chocolate is 'extremely dangerous' (genuine quotes).
I grew up in the 70's and I and most of my friends had Frosties, Rice Crispies or Corn Flakes for breakfast. None of us were overweight. We also had spam fritters, fish in radioactive orange breadcrumbs and pink custard for school dinners.
Eating healthily is important, of course it is. However, obsessing over the salt and sugar content of every micro gram of food that passes your child's lips and banning certain foods completely is not healthy and is also a fecking miserable way to live.
Lots of Europeans eat Danish pastries for breakfast and seem to survive.

It's fine. Mine have that sometimes.

Breakfast in this house: full fat Greek yogurt, honey and fruit, porridge, weetabix, fruit and fibre, fried egg on toast, boiled egg and soldiers, peanut butter on toast, mushrooms on toast.

Depends on how much time we have and how much inclination I have!

Personally I loathe cereal, but if the DC are having it, it's always with full fat milk.

I don't really understand the obsession with protein. Most people in this country with "normal" diets eat far more than they need, let alone those deliberately trying to add it into every meal.

I eat high protein to stay slim btw. But I am not a child.

90% of the time we have porridge with honey and jam (I'm very good at making a tiny bit of jam look like a lot, well to a two year old anyway...)

10% of the time we would have toast with jam (wholemeal seeded toast) or croissants.

My family have a notorious sweet tooth but as others have said, I allow sugary shit in moderation as I think a blanket ban is far more harmful.

At 4, my dd was such a poor eater that I would have been glad of wholemeal toast and honey at breakfast. She was a nightmare to feed at all. Despite troughing puréed organic veg while she was weaning .
She is now 10 and, despite churning inside at each meal, we took a "shrug your shoulders " policy . We offered good balanced meals that were tasty. Give them a go and no sweets or choc as an alternative- fruit if you are desperately hungry.
It sort of worked. She is still not a brilliant eater but she is up for giving stuff a go - enchiladas last night. She even eats bloody pilchards!

My nan had toast with either honey or marmalade every morning and lived till 96.
This can be such a strange place! (goes to make some toast with marmalade)

Absolutely fine. Everything in moderation. Hope she enjoys it!

You should aim for healthy not 'normal'. Could you make her French toast with cinnamon instead. Healthier and sweet from the cinnamon?

My nan had toast with either honey or marmalade every morning and lived till 96

Are you serious? Maybe she has good genes. Toast w/auger does not extend your life. Jeesh

How is French toast healthy?

French toast is delicious, but definitely a treat breakfast in our house!

Seriously- 4 year old eats toast and honey shocker. The Daily Fail might like to pick up this story, it's so outrageous!

I think it's absolutely fine - as many pp have said, everything in moderation! My DS has Weetabix or porridge most mornings, but occasionally he likes jam or a thin layer of Nutella on toast with some banana. Food is to be enjoyed.

Newbian 'there's no protein'. Actually there is. Bread contains protein. Yes, even shitty white sliced bread contains protein.

Good heavens, this thread is absolutely batshit.

It's making me want to go out and buy pop tarts.

There is not a lot of protein in it so she will get hungry again very quickly.