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Would you leave pretty bratty 14 yr old girl alone regularly with decent-looking young male piano teacher with no visible mention of partner?

239 replies

Evelight · 26/06/2017 16:29

Well would you? Or is my mind screwed up by Nabakov and The Police etc etc during my impressionable years?

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NotACleverName · 26/06/2017 18:52

Maman79 I remember that thread! 😄

RaspberryBeretHoopla · 26/06/2017 18:53

Is this the same OP as the angry thesis ejaculator?

QuackPorridgeBacon · 26/06/2017 18:53

serf it completely went over my head lol

MadameJosephine · 26/06/2017 18:56

It looks like I'm in the minority here but I think it's inappropriate for a 14 year old girl to be alone with a strange man in his home and wouldn't be happy with the arrangement at all

SerfTerf · 26/06/2017 18:56

I think it's gone over a few TBF Smile

Maman79 · 26/06/2017 18:57

@YesMadam sorry it was an assignment not a thesis but different poster, just a ridiculous thread lol www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1237046-In-thinking-he-should-call-my-lecturer-and-tell-them-what-he-did

SerfTerf · 26/06/2017 18:57

Different OP entirely isn't it @Maman79 ?

Grimbles · 26/06/2017 18:57

Oldbaglady. What does Marilyn Hawes have to say about bratty teenagers and decent looking tutors who might be single?

Or is all that stuff irrelevent and no indication of intent when it comes to abuse?

SerfTerf · 26/06/2017 18:57

X post

Maman79 · 26/06/2017 18:58

Although spookily that poster is called Lorita, very similar to Lolita woooooooo

Grimbles · 26/06/2017 18:59

It looks like I'm in the minority here but I think it's inappropriate for a 14 year old girl to be alone with a strange man in his home and wouldn't be happy with the arrangement at all

Would his looks and marital status have any bearing on your thoughts on this?

MadameJosephine · 26/06/2017 19:02

Absolutely not grimbles neither would the 'brattiness' of the girl

Smellbellina · 26/06/2017 19:05

Would his looks and marital status have any bearing on your thoughts on this?

You'd hope not! Why should they?

Grimbles · 26/06/2017 19:09

Smellbellina, I think that's what most of us were trying to establish!

Smellbellina · 26/06/2017 19:10

Actually I take that back, I can see why some people would find it did make a difference actually

AfunaMbatata · 26/06/2017 19:16

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LollipopsandWine · 26/06/2017 19:19

Can I just say to everyone mentioning the DBS\CRB check that it's a piece of paper and means nothing? My ex had a DBS for work at the exact same time that he was regularly abusing my four year old behind everyone's backs, and it came back clear as day as did the one before it, suggesting that he could even have worked in a school.

I'm not saying for one second that leaving a child with a music teacher is wrong, and I'm not agreeing with the thread but it scares the crap out of me when people assume a DBS check is the be all and end all of childcare providers/safe adults. It is not.

Malermalergoni · 26/06/2017 19:29

Haven't read the full thread..... But i wouldn't allow this for my teen. Can she share a lesson with a friend maybe? Safety in numbers?

NoFuckingRoomOnMyBroom · 26/06/2017 19:50

Well this is one of the more batshit crazy threads...

IHateUncleJamie · 26/06/2017 19:53

OP If said 14 yr old is your daughter, referring to her as "bratty" is not very nice, nor is assuming the poor piano teacher is a paedophile just because he's a man.

Why don't you either hire a female teacher or let your dd have piano lessons during school time with one of the school's piano teachers?

FakePlasticTeaLeaves · 26/06/2017 19:54

Malermalergoni That's worse - two girls against one man.

rightwhine · 26/06/2017 19:55

Surely you'd hear if they were getting up to no good because the music will stop... Grin

Has your dd got form for seducing good looking music teachers that don't have a visible partner?

Bishybarnybee · 26/06/2017 20:11

Pretty, bratty, decent-looking, daughter, young, no visible mention of partner.......all red herrings.

But 14 year old alone in a private house with no chaperone - absolutely not.

For several years I sat reading the paper in uncomfortable isolation in houses where my sons were having music lessons. It was boring and inconvenient. But I would not leave them on their own until they were much older than 14.

Professionals working with children in a public building would not normally allow themselves to be alone with a child in a room with a closed door. This protects the adult from allegations and the child from potential abuse. It is not appropriate for a 14 year old to be on their own in a house with a teacher. This is because so many children have been abused in schools, churches and leisure activities. The big Jimmy Saville cases are the tip of a depressingly large and everyday iceberg.

The vast majority of professionals working with kids are decent people, but safeguarding is about protecting children from the few who can cause great harm if allowed access to vulnerable children.

Andrewofgg · 26/06/2017 20:40

The vast majority of professionals working with kids are decent people, but safeguarding is about protecting children from the few who can cause great harm if allowed access to vulnerable children.

And, I fear, the answer to OP has to be No for the protection of both parties. If he has any sense he won't object.

Ethylred · 26/06/2017 20:43

Everyone is focussing on the bratty bit. This is completely wrong but I want to know too. Does it mean "prone to seducing men in their 20s"?

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