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To ask - Jeremy Corbyn - PM

613 replies

MommaGee · 26/06/2017 11:04

There's stuff about how he thinks he'll be PM in 6 months. How the GLASTO coverage is a BBC plot to "see a MARXIST in power" etc etc but how?
TM is hardly going to call another election and Labor are likely to keep her long enough to get through the crap that is Brexit.

Apologies for all those thinking in thick but I don't see how JC has any even inkling of getting it, let alone a discussion on how much swing he'd need

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pottered · 29/06/2017 10:14

i agree with faith - I'm hoping that the tories do some considered pay freeze lifting in the Nov budget. Jeering of any kind for votes in the commons is juvenile macho bs - it happens on both sides of the house though.

pottered · 29/06/2017 10:18

it happens though - i briefly worked in the public sector and my manager told me after probation i was virtually untouchable - a couple of the new grads used to book meetings with each other and then read their books in a meeting room.

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 10:19

If we had a manifesto we would know.

So now they just careen along with ad hoc, sticky paster quick fixes? No transparency? Backroom trade-offs?

Unelected and unaccountable?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 29/06/2017 10:26

Do the Tories not have a manifesto then? Oh right - so all the criticism of it before the election was bollocks.

Scandelicious · 29/06/2017 10:31

Aren't his expense claims low because his constituency is walking distance to Westminster? So no claims for second homes.

Baalam · 29/06/2017 10:32

Why are labour voters so cross with the dup being given money? Isn't that money to invest in the hospitals and schools of Northern Ireland? Isn't that a good thing?

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 10:37

Isn't that money to invest in the hospitals and schools of Northern Ireland? Isn't that a good thing?

Shouldn't all children and sick people be funded?

Why is it Tories only do it when they are absolutely forced over the barrel?

Baalam · 29/06/2017 10:40

So the problem is that your area is not being funded?

Baalam · 29/06/2017 10:41

Dont know about you make, but I've had state schools and NHS throughout my life, even under a Conservative govt.

Clalpolly · 29/06/2017 10:49

Me too, Balaam. In fact I had shit state school education under the Tories and shit NHS care under a Labour government.
It's not enough to call these things a virtue in themselves and ascribe that virtue to only one party.

Baalam · 29/06/2017 10:52

Yes I've had absolutely shocking NHS care so I don't feel as passionately about it as others.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 29/06/2017 10:59

I've had NHS & state schools throughout my life too Shock

Who knew it was just a Labour thing?! Wink

Also, the most disgustingly filthy hospitals I've experienced were under the last Labour govt.

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 11:00

Tory cuts to education aren't virtuous. They are punishment, and an example of ideological hatred of those they see as inferior.

It is Social Darwinism mixed with a corruption of Christian principles.

Moreover it doesn't work. Austerity has strangled economic growth. Tory Debt rises.

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 11:02

Tens of thousands of excess deaths attributed directly to Tory cuts.

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 11:04

A strong economy is based on investment. Investment in a healthy, well-educated population. Modern infrastructure.

And a stable, predictable future - not a NO-Plan, Over-the-cliff Brexit.

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 11:05

We need solid, transparent plans for economic growth. Not shady, hidden, backroom deals.

makeourfuture · 29/06/2017 11:06

And we need to feel safe. Safe in our streets and safe in our homes.

LadyinCement · 29/06/2017 11:11

Heavens above, makeourfuture, have you got some sort of software to churn out your comments?

It's not even worth replying because you don't hear. I'm always up for having my mind changed or to look at other points of view. You sound like a Dalek.

christinarossetti · 29/06/2017 11:12

Have you been in a local authority office lately pottered?

The days of LA workers being 'untouchable' are long since gone.

Most of the ones that I've been in look like the Marie Celeste - rows of empty desks due to redundancies, restructuring and long term sick due to stress caused by the above.

Are people seriously saying that it's absolutely fine that MPs got to pocket another couple of thousand pounds a week following their last pay rise, whilst nurses, HCPs, doctors, fire fighters, paramedics and all those who support those services continue to have their pay capped?

pottered · 29/06/2017 11:23

no, I don't think it's fine that MPs got huge rises when others didn't - I hope this is reviewed in Nov. I'm with the IFS - a bit less austerity, a bit more tax. Not Corbyn's disastrous job losing policies, not the current tories. And yes, sort out the disability mess - my sister is again having her benefits cut.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 29/06/2017 11:36

Corbyn's expenses aren't low. They are above average for a London MP. In fact, in his last year as a backbencher 2015-2015, Corbyn claimed 160k, 10k more than Patel who was a government minister at the time. The year he was supposed to have claimed 8 quid or something he actually claimed 140k.

christinarossetti · 29/06/2017 11:51

The problem being that the conservatives have no intention or will to sort out the disability mess which has occurred largely under their watch.

The disability mess isn't about austerity, it's ideologically driven.

pottered · 29/06/2017 12:00

i accept that about the tories' disability drive to push private firms into doing assessments - it clearly hasn't worked in terms of improving efficiency and has caused a lot of stress. We need better policies than either labour or the tories are offering right now. I don't trust Corbyn based on that manifesto to make a better job of it.

christinarossetti · 29/06/2017 12:01

Over 95% of JC's expenses claims go on office costs.

The rest on staffing this office.

Nothing on travel or accommodation.

Clalpolly · 29/06/2017 12:02

All, you haven't factored in JC's halo which automatically reduces any potential cause for criticism.