AIBU to ask your advice on wether it's worth taking my Neighbours from hell to court?

[Totallyattheendofmyrope]

I've had threads on here about my neighbours from hell.
We've been threatened, sworn at harassed and our visitors harassed.
We have involved the police who initially wanted to issue a harassment order against said neighbours but were overruled by their superior officer who said " it never ends well in neighbour disputes"
The actual abuse has reduced significantly though we still endure low level harassment.
I'm keeping notes etc as recommended by the police.
I've pushed for mediation and have met with the mediator however neighbours are stalling and I doubt very much they will attend.
Currently the favourite form of harassment is to park their vehicles to make it quite difficult for me to park. I can get in and I can get out but I do dread weekends and I dread coming home as I'm always so anxious about what they will have done and will I be able to get in ok etc.
I have checked my deeds and they are blocking my "easement ' and it states in the deeds that no one is allowed to do anything to hinder another's ingress and egress.
Currently the neighbours are freely enjoying and utilising the easement I honour and provide them with on my land.
So- Aibu to consider starting legal proceedings or am I just feeding into their crazy?
What would you do?

I don't know how you're managing to keep your chin up in that situation. I don't know why some people have to be such bastards.

OMG. I remember your last thread, you are dealing with this better than I would have. How awful. I would probably do everything possible to move away even if it cost lots.

I've heard of an abused neighbour getting some sort of recompense from the victims compensation board after enduring years of abuse.

Good luck with the knobbers, hope they have a break from the situation and -possibly - realise the hate campaign is too much effort?

Good news on your dh's promotion!

Not sure why you would write to the neighbours after the Pin is served - no contact is surely the best contact? Also not sure about writing to your other neighbours, they may not appreciate being formally drawn in (a letter makes it seem formal). Better to keep up friendly contact with the other neighbours - keeping them in the loop verbally rather than in writing?

Sorry that the neighbours going on holiday hasn't meant some respite for you. They really are incredible (not in a good way)

I'm not planning on writing a letter to the bad neighbour - nc is most definitely the way to go.

Bad neighbour has most definitely been in the ear of our shared neighbour in the middle.

I think once the pin is served it will be very obvious who is the problem iyswim ? But middle neighbour won't know unless I tell her- the twats certainly won't.
I was thinking in a... just to make you aware and please call 101 if you have any concerns in a community minded way??

Like a public service announcement

Ah I see - makes sense to tell the middle neighbour

Jesus OP, what on earth is wrong with them to need to constantly get at you like that :(

Just a thought but you mentioned that you rented it out but noone stayed more than a year? could you get in touch with any of those tenants and find out why?

It really sounds like the police have let you down. I would find out what the formal complaint channels are and use them. You may find they take more interest in you then. Instead of doing (so far) absolutely nothing about this awful problem.

How do they know they can't charge the neighbour with assault if they haven't spoken to the girls in question? Why haven't they spoken to them?

The police haven't spoken to the girls because they decided to move forward with the pin regardless-
The officer told me categorically that they believe us and that they know we haven't done anything wrong.
I think they have let us down by being cautious but I understand that pins are quite controversial and that the police (I think) are trying to be 100% sure of who is the offender before weighing into the situation.
I am being quite generous here in my evaluation and desperately hopeful
The officer told me that there was no open complaints from them about me on record and he said that there original complaints about us from them were that we walked past there house and that we look into their window and garden

We do walk past their back garden possibly once maybe twice a day---the side of their house is a ginnel that leads to the rest of the estate- we sometimes walk the dog past - we alternate our route to keep the dog interested and walk him at least 5 times per day in other directions also.
We use the driveway entrance and exit regularly - we go out on bikes a lot our dd has a hover board we have pebbles and stepping stones at the front so we can't go that exit.
It appears instructing us not to talk to them , say hello or attempt conversation (which we have obeyed) is not enough for them.
They want us to not use the ginnel despite it being the route to friends etc
They don't want us to exit and enter our property via the driveway (despite the fact we own it)
They don't want us to walk past their house, however infrequent.
They also want to tell us how to drive our vehicles in and out of our property ; i.e. Not reversing in.

We suspect this is why they hosed the girls because they had the audacity to be walking past their house.

The police are talking about mediation again ( shuttle this time) but my dh told them as there is nothing we can acquiesce i.e.; not a shiny shit chance these people are going to tell us how we live in our own home, what's the point.

It appears seeing us is so offensive to us they would like us to disappear up our own arses so they don't have to endure the horror of ever catching sight of us

I also can't see the point of mediation - even if they do agree to anything they won't keep to it. The neighbours are totally barking!

PINs should not be used when there is clear evidence of actual harassment.
While they can be controversial (in that they are given out so easily they are susceptible to abuse) in your case I think it is a very weak response by the police. Particularly where there are children involved and therefore child protection issues.
I do think you should ask for the decision to be reviewed. And the handling of the whole case. And the PIN hasn't even actually been served because the officer went on holiday!

I heard from the officer yesterday - he emailed me to tell me that they have decided that instead of serving a pin on the twats that will include the whole family including the grandparents- they will now serve the grandfather with his own individual pin.
So in total 2 pins will be served.
The attempt to serve the grandad the pin on Sunday was "unsuccessful" so they aim to do it asap
They will seek from him the date of the return of the twats and serve them separately when they get home.

Still waiting......

shall

The twats went in holiday... the officer went on sick.

I did say I was seeking to make a complaint on Friday when we went to the station- it did seem to make him sit up....so we didn't...

But we're still waiting

Can't believe this is still dragging on.
I think i would still be making a complaint over how you all have been treated op

Hi op. I just thought, maybe they want you to move? Wasnt there a thread a while back about a neighbour being awful and it was down to wanting their friend to live in that house

This is absolute insanity!!!

I sincerely hope the end is nigh

*wizzy,
Maybe they do want us to move?

What baffles me that he most about their behaviour is the question why? What do they hope to achieve?
It's very clear that they are quite hateful and they are most definitely bullies...but surely they must have an end game that they are aiming for..some sort of purpose??

I'm used to dealing with confrontation and supporting service users who are very angry and difficult. I empathize and even understand why they behave the way the do..things are shit for them.
I do not understand the behaviour of our neighbours, who appear to be very successful at life outwardly.
Totally baffling

I don't think bullies have the mental capacity to consider what they're aiming for. They're doing this as a power trip, to make their sad little lives feel a little less hollow.

I've been following your thread right from the start - I'm rooting for you.

They're psychopathic. Regular people just don't have the time or energy to do this shit. I'm so sorry you're still dealing with them.

Unfortunately people like your ndn just exist.
I doing even they could explain their behaviour.
Some people just have this thought process that others should behave in the way they want them too. They don't understand it doesn't work like that.

Why haven't they been charged with assault?

How do the police know they don't have enough evidence if they haven't interviewed the girls?

Why haven't they interviewed the girls? (or the neighbours)

I can't imagine that if I started hosing passers by the police wouldn't be round.

The police called one of the girls parents who confirmed the incident happened.
They didn't follow up or interview the girls because......I believe....it was at this point that the police confirmed to themselves and each other that our neighbours are most definitely the harassers.
Instead of steaming in with assault charges they've decide to take it to the next level and issue the pins.
Basically they are still trying to deescalate but are applying pressure to the neighbours.
The pin will make it clear to them that we are believed and that the police believe them to be the aggressors.
The officer also said the pin can be used as leverage and that if the neighbours continue the behaviour then they can escalate it quicker and it may then better meet the requirements for prosecution

If after the pins are issued of the parking behaviour doesn't stop we're going to up the pressure by engaging a solicitor.
With the pin - it may help us.
I will also find out from the solicitor where we stand legally by approaching his employer.

I hope they're right.

Have they managed to pin the granddad yet?

I called the police and both officers dealing with it all have gone off shift for a couple of days-

I don't know if they've gave grandad the pin yet as nobody has told me- if they haven't he's doing a good job of evading them or they're just not trying hard enough.

Dh thinks they can't have served him as they would have to inform us..I have no idea???
I've called the station twice this week, both times answered by lovely sympathetic people who made me cry and both times- despite promises - no return calls to give me further information.

The twats have returned from holiday yesterday and immediately launched into terribly aggressive parking as usual.
We went out for the day for our dd's ski lesson and on our return we were approached by middle neighbour.
He asked us why we were photographing his property.
As it was we had a good conversation where we had a decent discussion, during the convo the whole twat family ran out of the house into the drive to watch as they were obviously hoping for a confrontation.
I think this recent development proves that our teatty neighbours are telling nice neighbours false information to cause discord and further harass us.

At this point I want to send nice ndn the letter we've prepared with info on it and not wait for the pin to be served.

Dh is worried that if we do it preemptively of the pin that it may cause the elusive and imaginary pin not to be served.