To be fucked off at a lot of schools?

[KitBee]

Blazers on in this a weather. Really?

Top buttons too.

DSis school is saying it's to enhance work ethic and get you use to the work place by following rules like these.

Cannot think of many work places who would purposely make you uncomfortable like this

DS is still in utero. I'm praying they change these stupid rules nationally very soon, and make it bad practise to force children to swelter like this.

At my school the Head decides whether students may remove their blazers on a daily basis.

Everyone hangs around the notice board on hot days waiting for the laminated sign to pinned up with a flourish by the head's p.a.

Once, he changed his mind halfway through the morning and caused chaos by deciding that itwasn't as hot as the forecast so blazers had to go back on.
Control freak? Micro manager? He also spends time looking in bins to see if staff have mixed up recycling.
Hilarious. Not.

In the school I used to teach in kept Blazers as school uniform because to abandon them would send you down the rankings in parents eyes. Academies all changed their uniforms to Blazers. Why? Because parents thought it meant the school was a better school. Parents are the reason for stupid school uniform rules. Parents judge the school by how smart the children look.

I'm an accountant, and haven't worn a suit and tie for about 10 years. My boss doesn't either - neither do any of the engineers or marketing folk.

Salesmen do still do so, however.

Maybe it's training them to be barristers, who wear suits and neck things and wigs and woollen gowns in all weathers.

In fairness OP, you are right. God loves a gingham dress wearer.

Both of mine are at schools that have no uniform. They wear t shirt, jeans and hoodie or t shirt and shorts, or a summer dress when it is hot. Apart from DD1's (American) school, which "dress codes" girls whose shorts are too short ( shorts must be no shorter than finger tips when arm is by your side) it is a lot more relaxed and hassle free.

Why do parents put up with this sort of nonsense? Don't you have parent councils or similar in England/Wales who can point out to schools how ridiculous they're being?

Scottish school uniform is more relaxed - my secondary school child does have to wear black trousers, white shirt, school tie and blazer, but the blazer is a lightweight polyester washable one not wool, jumper is optional and he can wear a short sleeve shirt if he wants. All the kids look smart, and they're not melting in the heat.

Same as hesterton, I am a teacher with a hatred of the current need to have students in blazers and ties. Polo shirts are far better with a sweater in winter.

Any student coming into my class is told to take the blazer and tie off and roll up their sleeves too (this is also forbidden in some schools). I think the whole pretend 'business dress' thing is beyond ridiculous plus, as a parent, it is expensive and hard to look after.

Oh, and unfasten the top button which is also a crime.

I grew up in the US but went to a school with a British headmaster. We didn't have a uniform - much to his chagrin - but a very strict dress code. Every year in the spring/early summer, we'd wait with baited breath for the headmaster to decree that we were allowed to wear shorts. And every year he waited until it was so hot bordering on unbearable. We only had aircon in the library and computer rooms. As a girl we work skirts and dresses but it was so unfair on the boys. When we'd complain he told us about the woollen uniforms he'd grown up wearing.

When he retired and was replaced with an American headmaster we found ourselves getting approval for shorts much earlier in the year!

Ours does it thoroughly. Pupils are expected to have their blazers with them (which is handy, really, as they're so often used as a wearable storage system), but when it's hot they go properly to planters.

My school insisted you wore your blazer at all times, they were navy blue wool, as were the skirts which had to be below the knee and they stopped producing the summer dress. So many girls fainted it was ridiculous, even when people were falling off the high stools in science and art which resulted in a friend of mine breaking her wrist, they didn't change the rules. Also in winter for games if you were caught trying to wear leggings under your tracksuit bottoms for warmth you would be made to do the lesson in skirt and gym knickers, while the teacher would be wrapped up in hat scarf and gloves. It's barbaric and in no other walk of life are you expected to roast yourself like a chicken in a bag. It can't possibly impact the quality of work done for the better when students are too hot to think!

I went to a posh boarding school with a very strict uniform.

In summer when it got hot we had a 'shirt sleves' exemption which would be communicated to the school - no blazer, no ties, could wear short sleeve shirts, top button didn't have to be done up, could wear shorts.

Forcing children to wear clothes not suited to the temperature is fucking stupid and does nothing to enhance learning.

As an expat reading this from a non-uniform country (Germany*), I am at the number of schools/heads who appear to think this is legitimate. It seems to be related to some kind of vicious and faintly sadistic conservative disciplinary backlash. There's no other explanation.

*Where, of course, anarchy reigns in the classrooms, no students ever achieve and they certainly don't learn the discipline of the workplace adequately to go out into the whole world as bankers, scientists, doctors, engineers... Oh, wait...

In fact, part of the German anti-uniform argument would probably be that uniform encourages potentially dangerous conformism. Very good historical reasons for that argument.

At the opposite end of the weather scale my daughter's school doesn't allow the students to wear coats on school grounds. In bad weather kids huddle together to keep warm and dry futility while teachers have coats and hats on and shelter under umbrellas .

"I went to a posh boarding school with a very strict uniform.

In summer when it got hot we had a 'shirt sleves' exemption which would be communicated to the school - no blazer, no ties, could wear short sleeve shirts, top button didn't have to be done up, could wear shorts. "

I could have written that, although I thought it was called "short sleeves". This always confused me as I used to wear a short-sleeve shirt year round under my v-neck.

Do schools know there are other professions than working in an office

These days, even in many professional offices, people don't have to wear suits and ties anymore. I think schools and the wider educational system have some pretty major misconceptions about adult/working life.

I'm an accountant, and haven't worn a suit and tie for about 10 years. My boss doesn't either - neither do any of the engineers or marketing folk.

Same here, also an accountant. I'm sitting here in my office in smart shorts and T shirt.

I'd love to see more summer dresses. Dark check A Line knee length. Cool and practical and flattering for all.

Dcs school have last night issued that blazers and jumpers Shouldn't be worn this week to our relief. This was on Twitter though and not everyone has Twitter do they? They should have also sent text and email.
However this is a first so one less thing to moan about this morning.

Pretty sure the only jobs where you have to wear suits now are estate agents, mind you I think there might be a rule they have to be cheap polyester, so maybe wool blazers are not right preperation even for that.

Uniform rules that don't take weather into account do nothing but teach you that the rules are stupid and just there for the sake of it.

My school had a no coats indoors policy, so we couldn't keep them on the back of our chairs at lunch. Unfortunately we queued up outside for lunch so would stand there in the rain in shirt sleeves or wool jumpers that would never dry and stank all afternoon. Then we would get shouted at to put coats on to go outside after lunch - because maybe it was a different sort of outside after we'd eaten?