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To be fucked off at a lot of schools?

236 replies

KitBee · 18/06/2017 23:11

Blazers on in this a weather. Really?

Top buttons too.

DSis school is saying it's to enhance work ethic and get you use to the work place by following rules like these.

Cannot think of many work places who would purposely make you uncomfortable like this Hmm

DS is still in utero. I'm praying they change these stupid rules nationally very soon, and make it bad practise to force children to swelter like this.

OP posts:
Justaboy · 19/06/2017 00:10

I see quite a few of her Majesties guards were falling bearskin over tit today!, what stupidity wearing those things in this 30 deg plus weather!

Sprogletsmuvva · 19/06/2017 00:14

I happened to look at the website for the school i left 25 years ago, a year or so back. Fuck me. When i was there, they were rarely enforcing collars on shirts, and weren't bothered whether the uniform colours were right. Now, "jumpers must be worn at all times on the premises, and teachers will inform students when they may be taken off." Nothing like preparing 15yos for imminent adulthood, like undermining the sense of bodily comfort they've had since they were toddlers, eh?

And as has been said, there's a H&S issue here. Everyone has a personal thermostat - what the school may consider is okay for most kids could be uncomfortable to the point of fainting for some.

slkk · 19/06/2017 00:15

We've had an email saying no blazers or ties this week.

TheMysteriousJackelope · 19/06/2017 00:17

Why are they making them wear them inside the school?

I went to a school with the most ridiculous uniform imaginable. We had to wear the blazers, gloves, and hats coming into and leaving school but we certainly didn't have to wear them inside the building. I even got yelled at by the head for wear shoes the wrong color brown so it's not as if they were lax either.

It's impractical as it just sets up a very expensive blazer getting ink, paint, chemicals, food and drink on it.

What this is doing is teaching the children that some uniform rules are stupid and to avoid an employer like the plague if they have daft ideas of what their employees should be wearing. I suppose that is something.

Kerberos · 19/06/2017 00:19

We have too. They're not all monsters

PrincessLeia80 · 19/06/2017 00:23

My children's school is reasonably lax however I know of a local school
that has banned coats. Regularly see the children dripping wet on their way in of a morning.

nancy75 · 19/06/2017 00:23

We have an inset day tomorrow, I'm hoping an email about blazers will come tomorrow. Dd is one of those kids that's boiling in winter, she is never going to cope with the uniform in this weather

Topseyt · 19/06/2017 00:32

Some schools are ridiculous about this.

Thankfully, DD3's school is relatively relaxed about the blazer question, though does have it's issues in other ways. There is also the option of short sleeved shirts and blouses.

alleypalley · 19/06/2017 00:34

My dd goes a school that has a World Class rating (goes beyond Outstanding Ofsted) and is in the top 5% of schools in the country for achievement. She will be going to school tomorrow in her skirt and shirt, (and trainers for that matter), she won't even bother taking her jumper nevermind blazer; which is optional to buy let alone wear.

Some of these uniform rules I see on here are pure nonsense, and as for those that try to claim it is necessary for discipline, well that's just laziness and lack of imagination in the schools part.

AnnieOH1 · 19/06/2017 00:37

I can't recall if it was last summer or the summer before but our local 11-18 school decided to impose a "you must wear your blazer on pain of death" rule until one of the kids was taken away in an ambulance from heat stroke. It still took the school a few days to formally back down on their stance. Made a huge issue all across the district.

Italiangreyhound · 19/06/2017 00:42

We looked at high schools this time last year, one school had whole class in blazers and teacher in shirt sleeves. Need I say we did not choose that school.

PonderLand · 19/06/2017 00:42

My school used to have a polo shirt for summer and polo shirt with jumper over for winter. The same school introduced blazers a few years ago and I really don't think the kids look smart in them. It looks a bit like they're wearing there mum/dads clothes. Especially the tiny year 7's!

May09Bump · 19/06/2017 00:43

I would not be sending my child into school with those rules and, I'm all for uniform. It is nuts to send a child in layered up - most schools are like ovens. Where is the Headteacher's common sense?

Maybe if enough parents politely suggested temporary removal of blazers etc, it would be considered. What would happen if the child didn't bring in their blazer with a note or call from you regarding the temperature in the school?

nancy75 · 19/06/2017 00:48

No blazer is detention, with or without note from me!

lalalalyra · 19/06/2017 00:50

I was saying earlier on a thread I can see me having a run in with the school my 3 eldest go to tomorrow over this.

Last year I was called in to collect my DD after she fainted. Teacher was in a sleeveless too and flip flop style shoes (black ones - miles maybe?) and DD had been told off for removing her blazer.

I'm a stickler for rules normally but that building is roasting all year round and the new head has a 'no exceptions' policy. Apparently you wouldn't expect McDonald's or another business to change their uniform policy on a hot day - I would if it involved woollen blazers!!

lalalalyra · 19/06/2017 00:51

Same here nancy75

And more Ryan two detentions for the same thing sees other privileges removed (access to common room, lunch time clubs etc).

lalalalyra · 19/06/2017 00:51

More than, not Ryan.

Elfieselfie · 19/06/2017 01:01

Girls in our school are not allowed to wear socks with skirts, has to be tights. I work in a professional role, I do not wear tights and keep a jacket on all day when it's hot.

School disinterested when concerns are raised. No air con. Staff are wearing heir lightweight summer clothes.

Kids also not allowed to wear coats past the entrance gate so when it's raining, they are soaked before they reach registration.

KickAssAngel · 19/06/2017 01:48

I'm a teacher who taught in the UK for years, and now teach in the US.

No uniform is FAR better than uniform - it makes much more sense and allows me to focus on teaching, not policing clothes. Give kids a uniform and they will find a way to defy it. Take away uniform and they just turn up to class ready to go. All the excuses to keep uniform are just crap. It isn't cheaper, doesn't hide rich/poor divide, doesn't teach good attitudes and just further magnifies the 'us and them' situation in a school, and that undermines good teaching.

As for insisting that children wear things that are uncomfortable!

No uniform doesn't mean no standards, just that children are given reasonable expectations, and it is much easier (cheaper, convenient etc) for them to abide by.

EmilyBiscuit · 19/06/2017 05:49

I hate uniform too. I never insist on it being correct during a lesson - kids need to feel comfortable and it is thankfully at teachers discretion in the classroom. But if I allow them to leave my classroom without the uniform being correct I get the blame. So I do my job (enforcing school rules) and then rage when other teachers ignore school rules I think are important (such as no mobiles in class).

Pengggwn · 19/06/2017 05:59

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Crusoe · 19/06/2017 06:17

My DS will be going to school today in a pair of shorts and a t shirt. No uniform, no hassles.

CadnoDrwg · 19/06/2017 06:18

We have two secondary schools in our local area. One is insane and insists on blazers, buttoned up shirts with ties and girls must wear tights with skirts or trousers. Boys must wear trousers.

The other switches to PE kit for hot weather which may be a pain to keep on top of from a washing perspective but certainly sounds more sensible (and the children are still clearly 'uniform').

I'm rather glad that my children will be going to the latter. They seem to have common sense to accompany their good results (we'll definitely get into this school, no need for debate on how).

ArtemisiaGentilleschi · 19/06/2017 06:26

So how many children at how many schools who have said they must wear blazers today have you got OP?

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hesterton · 19/06/2017 06:40

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