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AIBU to be shocked by language used by head teacher?

307 replies

LargeGlassofRed · 16/06/2017 21:14

Dd2 came home today and said the head had lost it and ranted at them calling them 'antisocial low life scum' ! Am I overreacting to think this is totally unexceptable?

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GreenTulips · 19/06/2017 07:44

Ham

The fire brigade know of the times the alarm is due to go off - part of that drill is that someone phones the fire brigade -

They also occasionally turn up to check on the evacuation and rules have been followed

They do it during 'quiet' times as part of fire brigade training

ValMc1 · 19/06/2017 08:47

My son and daughter's old head teacher at Junior School many years ago (they are both nearing 40), said some wise words when they started school - "we will not believe half of what they tell us about you, if you do not believe half of what they tell you about us.

pontynan · 19/06/2017 09:42

I'd put money on the head having said '...that's the behaviour of antisocial lowlife scum' and in the context of the current week in particular, I agree with him. As sonjadog says, stop being so precious and back up the Head - explain the consequences of people setting off fire alarms as a joke and why he felt so angry.

hks · 19/06/2017 12:04

i dont think they would risk their job by saying such a phrase maybe they have heard older kids or parents saying it

but my daughters head teacher said my daughter was paranoid because of all the bullying complaints i put it .whilst teachers turned a blind eye to it

Mylittlestsunshine · 19/06/2017 12:41

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Floggingmolly · 19/06/2017 12:53

I think you need to focus on the fact that the kids let off a fire alarm "for a larf" on the day Grenfell Tower was burning, and other kids were sitting GCSE's - rather than the HT saying it as most people he saw it, op. Seriously.

LargeGlassofRed · 19/06/2017 13:34

Update, the Head teacher called me.
Firstly as I said in an early post my daughter is extreamly aware how serious fire is, as she was home when we lost our house to fire last year, and then spent 6 months in a B and B after losing everything.
The head teacher had had other complaints about Friday, he admitted to saying what my daughter had reported. He then told me some of the problems there'd had with ex students and some current students that week. He was trying to get over the serousness of their actions, although admitted that some of it had been lost in translation. He listened to my opintions and explained his actions and I'm happy with that.
He said most if not all of his school day is taken up dealing with problem pupils and he didn't spend time praising the ones who did toe the line enough.
I think it was right to address it with him and I don't feel unreasonable for doing this.

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derxa · 19/06/2017 13:38

I think it was right to address it with him and I don't feel unreasonable for doing this. Good for you for wasting even more of his time.

kali110 · 19/06/2017 14:04

Good for you for wasting even more of his time.
Yep, agree.

youarenotkiddingme · 19/06/2017 14:12

Did you really need the Ht to confirm to you he'd been under a lot of stress that week and his words had for lost in translation?

I mean - god forbid the 100's of posts here highlighting that to you - when you asked - being enough. Hmm

BoomBoomsCousin · 19/06/2017 14:21

Good for you for holding him to account without going over the top, OP. Saying he should have been doing more praising doesn't really explain why your DD was shouted at unless she was part of the group misbehaving though, nor what was meant by "showing off" to year 11 leavers or why it was bad.

Xanadu44 · 19/06/2017 14:24

What a waste of his time, pandering to an overprotective mother who obviously doesn't have anything better to do with their life. You need to get a grip.

VintagePerfumista · 19/06/2017 15:29

Ha ha, you haven't got a clue OP, have you?

This is how it goes:

HT's secretary: "HT we've had an email from ParentX saying you've said you called the lowlife scum, er, lowlife scum"

HT "FFS, pass it over"

HT "righty ho, better ring her up and do a bit of the old grovelling and forelock tugging"

Is your daughter very embarrassed at what you've done? You've given her a massive label to wear for the rest of her time there. Great job.

BangkokBlues · 19/06/2017 15:52

@VintagePerfumista has it in one

Also PMSL that your year 8 child hasn't heard the word 'scum' before. LOL LOL LOL

Highalert · 19/06/2017 16:25

Good for you,OP.

Bit sad to think teachers just take the piss out of parents genuine concerns though Hmm

biscuitmillionaire · 19/06/2017 16:36

Some of you are a bit hard of understanding or perhaps need to improve your reading skills, especially if you're teachers: OP stated clearly that it was the Y8 girls the head called 'lowlife scum', not the Y11s who set off the alarm.

00100001 · 19/06/2017 16:57

highalert the problem is though, it's hard to take seriously an OP who is given half a story from her daughter, then only tells us part of that story on here - who then writes to the Head Teacher.

Teacher's would not dismiss a genuine actual concern. But I can guarantee that the HT in question is dealing with kids that are causing issues such as: physical violence, verbal assault, teenage pregnancy, neglect at home, safeguarding issues, exam stress, parents not giving a shit, truancy, missing pupils, police enquiries.
All this as well as trying to run the school on a day-to-day basis. With public exams, lessons, trips, truants, cover, schoolwide events etc

There was clearly more to the story than what was told. But the parents phoned into complain anyway, without finding out what actually happened.

So YES, the other posters are taking the piss out of OP. teacher's included.

00100001 · 19/06/2017 16:58

It would have been far more reasonable to send the child's tutor an email finding out what happened/their side of the story, and then decide what to do.

DixieNormas · 19/06/2017 17:15

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Highalert · 19/06/2017 17:21

I'm glad my kids never went to a school where the HT thought his pupils were low life scum.

But obviously most on MN are happy with that.

00100001 · 19/06/2017 17:24

The HT doesn't genuinely think they are "low life scum" Confused He was cross and said some stuff (although. we have no idea what was actually said, or why it was said) and it's been blown out of proportion.

Maybe your HT did think his pupils were LLS. Just never verbalised it.

00100001 · 19/06/2017 17:26

And I'm sure you have never ever said anything in anger, tiredness or frustration that you have regretted/not meant. Hmm

DixieNormas · 19/06/2017 17:28

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Highalert · 19/06/2017 17:29

Maybe he did. . That would make him a shit HT though.

Oops not allowed to criticise teachers on MN. Silly me.

creamycrackers · 19/06/2017 17:37

LOL..OP my Ds 12 has just been reading this over my shoulder and asked what low life scum means. When I explained he said If the HT had said that he/she could of probably gotten the point across in a more mature manner Grin.

It's different strokes for different folks isn't it.

We had similar happen to our DS years ago. Luckily there was another member of staff who disagreed with the way it was handled too and before we even knew about it, she had put in a complaint herself. Believe it or not she repeated exactly the same as our DS had later told us.

It's amazing isn't it OP that there are actually small people who are perfectly capable of repeating what a big person has said without getting it all wrong? Shock

Just stick a label on your Dc saying verbal abuse towards this child will NOT be tolerated. That seems to be the way some people get away with speaking to others like shit.