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To hate Lily Allen

556 replies

ClappingThighs · 16/06/2017 01:00

I can't stand her. Always popping up somewhere that she's not required to put her 2 cents in. It's like her music is so shit and unpopular she's decided to just stick her oar in wherever she can now. I've never disliked anyone this strongly before (that I've never met!)

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user1480459555 · 16/06/2017 09:14

Yes there are many questions that need answering BUT we do NOT need mouthy I KNOW IT ALL Allen spouting off.

She always has to make an appearance and usually some inane comment about things. There is no way she is not doing it just to get some publicity.

I have heard interviews with her and she comes across as not very intelligent so why make out she has the answers to everything?

Why can't she be content to have made money from a singing career when she can't even sing? Bit like her dad and his "acting"

BigYellowJumper · 16/06/2017 09:14

alltouchedout I think someone already made that joke.

shatners Yeah, I really feel like it is quite weird that people are defending her saying that number. It's not like anyone was trying to minimise it anyway, everywhere I have read they have made it clear that it will be more.

TheHiphopopotamus · 16/06/2017 09:20

I agree with the OP. Lily Allen is an idiot. Why is her opinion anymore valid than anyone else's? She (very clearly, after last nights interview) doesn't have a fucking clue. I wish they would stop giving professional loudmouths who don't know what they're talking about airtime (Charlotte Church and Russell Brand are another pair who spring to mind).

And as for she grew up on a council estate? Fucking lol. Her father is Keith Allen, her mother is a tv producer, her stepfather was Harry Enfield and LA went to Bedales.

Aeroflotgirl · 16/06/2017 09:21

Can't stand her, rent a gob comes to mind with her.

Isawesausittingonaseesaw · 16/06/2017 09:29

Oh god she's awful. Talk about watching roaches climb the wall, if you called your dad (or your mum, or your stepdad, or your bank manager) you could stop it all...

But hey, at least she also said she's donating all her money and that she sold her massive house in the Cotswolds because it's immoral for some to have so much space and land whilst others live in tower blocks. Oh no wait, the other thing. she comes across as a real hypocrite.

Celebrities throwing their weight behind such a sickening and needless tragedy is great. People who were famous 10 years ago flapping their gums to stir things up by talking about "off the record" figures without any actual facts? Not so much.

ShatnersWig · 16/06/2017 09:41

This was her Twitter feed last night:

"I'm sad to say @BBCNewsnight just cancelled me for tonight's show. They have someone from the council coming on instead."

Of course, this resulted in people claiming that the BBC did this because they didn't want to upset the government and this supposed hushing up as they were embarrassed about what she said on Channel 4.

Excuse me, but what the actual fuck? Sad that you were cancelled in preference to a member of the actual council involved? Someone who could be asked pertinent (and potentially damaging) questions and perhaps get some answers, over you? Seems bloody right to me and if she was in any way credible she wouldn't be sad, she should be pleased.

Edsheeranalbumparty · 16/06/2017 09:43

And as for she grew up on a council estate? Fucking lol. Her father is Keith Allen, her mother is a tv producer, her stepfather was Harry Enfield and LA went to Bedales.

Apparently she did live on a council estate as a young child for a time. But yes, she went to about a million different private schools and had famous close relatives so not quite the 'council estate girl done good' image that she likes to portray.

Hermagsjesty · 16/06/2017 09:45

YABVU. She was justifiably angry and emotional. Personally, I'm not a fan of celebrity opinions in general. I'd rather listen to experts opinions but apparently "we've had enough of experts" - therefore our media culture frequently asks celebrities and glorified trolls (I'm
thinking of the likes of Katie Hopkins) what they think instead. Lily Allen being interviewed is a product of that culture - she is not the creator of it. If they ask her opinion why shouldn't she give it? At least she's trying to use her platform to give voice to those who have been ignored.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 16/06/2017 09:46

I'm sad to say @BBCNewsnight just cancelled me for tonight's show. They have someone from the council coming on instead."

You couldn't make it up.
hmm] Imagine inviting someone who might actually have something to say rather then a know it all ex pop star.

hackmum · 16/06/2017 09:50

I don't know very much about Lily Allen.

But I do know that I dislike it when someone starts a thread on a public forum about "hating" someone. What benefit does it have? It seems to me the only thing it does is to contribute, in a small way, to making the world a nastier place.

How can you summon up hate for a person you've never met, unless they've done something truly wicked? Probably, OP, you find her a bit irritating. But "hate"? Why not do what the Quakers do and look for the goodness in people? Start a thread about all the kind acts we've seen as the result of the fire: people donating money, people donating clothes and toys, people offering rooms in their houses. Reflecting on the good things people do might make us all feel a bit better. But especially you.

Hermagsjesty · 16/06/2017 09:53

Also, I imagine her sadness about someone from the council to speak instead, is - I would imagine - concern that they will whitewash the residents anger. This is the same council that ignored the residents for years. If they're speaking someone representing the residents should be their too - although I'd agree that should probably be a lawyer or similar rather than Lily Allen.

LittleBooInABox · 16/06/2017 09:54

I dislike her based on what I know. When she said "I think I speak for the majority of England when I say we don't want brexit"

Yes Lily you with enough money to afford to see a doctor without having to wait three weeks because there are 1000 patients to 6 doctors in our local surgery.

ghostyslovesheets · 16/06/2017 09:55

She's a filthy piece of lefty shit. Can't stand the bitch

this is vile - today is the anniversary of Jo Cox's murder - nothing changes

If you MUST hate at least hate the people that allowed this to happen or the people trying to whip up more hate on the back of it - not people trying to speak up and speak out

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 16/06/2017 10:00

Also, I imagine her sadness about someone from the council to speak instead, is - I would imagine - concern that they will whitewash the residents anger. This is the same council that ignored the residents for years. If they're speaking someone representing the residents should be their too - although I'd agree that should probably be a lawyer or similar rather than Lily Allen.

But how is Lily Allen qualified to represent the residents?

Hermagsjesty · 16/06/2017 10:01

And another thing I hate is how when people talk about hating the likes of Lily Allen, they always say she's hypocritical for being rich herself and caring about the poor- that old champagne socialist BS. You can be rich and still be empathetic. You can be rich and still listen to and speak for people less well off than you. (Interestingly, the same people who deride champagne socialists are usually also the ones quick to talk about the "politics of envy" when poor people try to address inequality) These are lazy insults aimed to shut down people you disagree with. And this thread is actually making me like Lily Allen more than I ever have before. The amount of abuse and derision she gets and she still uses her voice. Good on her.

McTufty · 16/06/2017 10:02

I respect that she genuinely seems to care about the victims.

I don't even mind her saying she is hearing hundreds of dead, but I didn't like her suggestion that this was somehow deliberate downplaying (hinting I thought that this is because of the demographic of the victims). Whenever anything happens, the news outlets work off confirmed dead and so they should - this is no different.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 16/06/2017 10:04

Caring about someone and representing someone well are different things.

corythatwas · 16/06/2017 10:04

Every word that Lana said. This is when we should be asking the questions, while people are still angry, before they have time to forget.

Particularly about the lifting of fire safety restrictions: why do we regard the inconvenience of red tape as a more serious matter than keeping people alive?

Hermagsjesty · 16/06/2017 10:05

Chardonnay - as I said, I'd personally prefer it was a lawyer or similar speaking on behalf of the residents. But Newsnight invited Lily Allen - presumably because they felt she would speak about the anger and concerns of the residents she has been spending time with. You do realise Lily Allen didn't invite herself on to Newsnight in the first place?

AntiopeofThemyscira · 16/06/2017 10:07

I think she's passionate and really feels what's she's witnessing plus she's there doing her bit. Nope can't hate or be irritated by anyone doing that and I rather judge people who are.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 16/06/2017 10:08

Maybe they realised she wasn't the right person to speak after all. Lily Allen's only been interested in this after the fire.

Maybe the council people didn't want to go initially and then relented. Who knows.

Birdsgottaf1y · 16/06/2017 10:08

I also think that she made some very valid points, in all fairness the conflict of interest in regards of the Conservative Landlords voting against Renter rights, is being bought up everywhere.

The Hospitals/Fire brigade and police all made the point that if there had been another incident, then they wouldn't have coped and given the High Security Risk that we are living under,we can't make more cuts and limit spending.

I have a block of high rise flats close to me,there has been threads on the issues that they are having with their new private LLs, previously they were HA. There is very little accountability about what goes on. There was a suicide from on one recently, a lot of issues had impacted on this person, but they stemmed from Government policies.

Government policies are killing people. My community has been destroyed by the bedroom tax, to the point that the 3 bed houses could't be rented out, so they have had to be sold, all to buy-to-let cash buyers. We also have lost festivals and community projects, green spaces, because of the cuts, all within the last two years, We won't get those back.

I don't agree with everything she says, or rather when apologising do it because she is ashamed of our politicians and greedy money making overlords.

We should be a society, not just individuals, as is the Tory rhetoric, when people needing assistance and communities are bought up. We need as many people saying this as possible when being given airtime. No doubt if Rita Ora comments, she will also be shot down, as she often is, just because she dares, as a woman, to have the sex life that she wants.

BigYellowJumper · 16/06/2017 10:09

Well I guess we are all judging people for who they are antiope and some of us come to different conclusions.

If she's so keen for the community to have a voice, wouldn't it be better for one of them to be on newsnight? Someone from one of the nearby houses, or who lived in the community?

TheWitTank · 16/06/2017 10:12

I wouldn't say I hate her -I don't know her. I do however think she says some bloody stupid, ill advised things. I think it comes from her trying to do the right thing and help, but some of the stuff she comes out with is incorrect, inflammatory and unhelpful. The amount of dead are very obviously not being announced as it is an unknown figure and relatives are still waiting for news. They are announcing the confirmed deaths which is the right thing to do and have said the number will rise. Why is that bad? There is no conspiracy or cover up, its just very early on. The problem with inflammatory comments like this is that it detracts from the real cause and focuses on Lily -it makes her seem like she is attention seeking and wanting to be the "peoples hero" for her own gain. I'm sure she isn't at all, but that is how it comes across.

flowersformyweeds · 16/06/2017 10:12

She was actually meant to talk on newsnight but got pulled due to her channel 4 comments.

www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/06/16/lily-allen-pulled-newsnight-comments-made-grenfell-tower-channel/

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