To think Tim Farron has awful timing?

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Seriously? He chose today to publicly resign and have his little televised pity party?

Christ, I was relatively ok about the guy before this , but today was not the day!

He is a twat of the highest order.

He was a shit leader anyway.

And to compulound the issue, to see a BBC reporter, live, in front of the smouldering tragedy of grenfell, talking about his resignation? Abhorrent when the dead relatives of poor families lay just feet away.

Are you going to slate Paddock for resigning today as well?

Compound.

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Hoping to bury the news?

I didnt know about Paddick, I was referring to the bizarre televised announcement from Farron, about what a rough time he had had in the media etc... his points may ir may not have merit, but why today??? It just seems grossly insensitive timing.

Yeah, you could be right Trojan.

Tbh I find his reasons far more nefarious than his timing.

Corbyn is just as bad. Now is not the time to be furthering your political cause by pointing the finger speculatively before the cause is even known. Now is the time for helping the bereaved, the traumatised, the wounded, the homeless, those who've lost all their possessions.

Find out the cause first. Then call for all the enquiries you like. But don't use a tragedy as a cheap shot in politics. Bad taste.

Dan The residents themselves have been trying to bring attention to the cause, though, so I think he's just amplifying their voice.

Farron should resign. HIs views are completely at odds with a liberal tolerant pro rights pro equality party needs as a leader. Incredible he lasted as long. I say that as a member of the LDs who voted for him in the leadership election

Agree Dan. And Vlad you have a fair point, I just got the instant red mist at hearing his "poor little me" tale. Today of all days.
Just so thoughtless, it could have waited until tomorrow.

Bit of a tangent but - I don't understand this whole let people grieve before pointing fingers. When someone is murdered, the culprit is look for straight away. Blame is sought and justice is part of the grieving process. If I had family caught up in this awful tragedy, I'd want the finger pointed at the culprits immediately!

As a Labour press advisor said on 9/11, today's a good day "to bury bad news." Shocking act of cowardice from Fallon, using the tower-block tragedy to deflect attention from his decision to resign.

By this, I mean he has done the right thing. He possibly cost Vauxhall Cambridge & Richmond Park the votes, no comment re Clegg he is still incredibly unpopular with voters over student fees and tory deals (where they blocked conservatives many more times than enabled them)

Trust me LEG, I am not against his resignation at all, just his apalling timing. Maybe its just me, but It just seems so innapropriate.

He's been on the radio saying it's "definitely" due to cuts. But the building had £8m spent on it recently. For just one example it's quite possible it's the cladding that was put on to make it look more attractive - that would be a planning issue. For another, it sounds as if the fire advice was out of date.

If they find out that corners were cut anywhere because of cuts, then he can pursue his point all he likes. But come on, pointing the finger at the Tories when the cause isn't known and people are still trapped in there is just self advancement.

HIs error was not going sooner, rather than going today, which I think was the correct response to Paddick

You do have a point though about the timing accompanied by the statement

Oh DFOD Dixie. You don't know me in the least. if you really think what he's said is appropriate BEFORE THE CAUSE IS KNOWN then that says a lot about you.

I live pretty near it. It's utterly traumatic - DP has been down there today taking lots of donations and I'll be taking food and water over later. The thought of it being used politicially when it's so raw is most upsetting.

Dan Er... I think there's pretty clear evidence that concerns had been raised about the safety of the building long before today, and they had been ignored by the council and the government. www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-mays-chief-staff-sat-10620357

"Now is not the time to be furthering your political cause by pointing the finger speculatively before the cause is even known."

I absolutely disagree. Now is absolutely the time to reinforce the need for investigation, and to promise that people will be held to account. That is the job of politicians.
Just as putting out the fire and rescuing people is the job of the fire service.