Would you let your dd go to little mix concert?

[gutsywillow]

Okay so my question is if you are a feminist and disagree with the sexualisation of young girls would you allow your DD to go to a little mix concert?
My cousin has offered to take my DD with her DD. My DD is 9. Would I BU to say no?
I feel uncomfortable with it, firstly I don't want to be promoting this kind of portrayal of women and how women should look, secondly its really, really crap music.
Will she grow up and think, blimey why did my mum let me go to that? I thought she was a feminist!

I'm letting my daughter go with my sister. I hate the music but I don't want my daughter to be exactly like me. I want her to choose what she likes and me not tell her what she can like.

"We all parent the best we can do if you're uncomfortable that's fine but please don't claim it's due to feminism and imply I'm supporting negative images of women by having a different parenting style."

If that's directed at me I most certainly did nothing of the sort. I have no idea where you got that from!

BertrandRussell I think describing something as slutty or oppressive or anti- feminist etc falls under the umbrella of criticism.
I feel that a lot of the time there is no intelligent thought behind the judgement, it's just ''you aren't like me therefore I disapprove''. That's what I really have a problem with and don't understand, debate about societal expectations of women etc is at least an interesting conversation, as opposed to just judging someone purely based on how they dress.

After the terrorist attack I would NEVER let my daughter go to a concert! Hell no!

One person said slutty and was picked up on it-it's not the mood of the thread.

No Bert that was aimed at other comments scattered throughout the thread.

After the terrorist attack I would NEVER let my daughter go to a concert! Hell no

Do you let your daughter go into cities, shopping centres, on public transport? The unlikely possibility of being caught in an attack could happen almost anywhere. I'm not letting those daesh wankers stop me from doing stuff.

BertrandRussell I was talking about judgements women make on other women in general, not just this thread.

I'm finding all this horror that if you don't let you child go to a pop concert you're making them miss out or letting them down or some such? I have awful tinnitus so I won't be taking DD to any concerts, is that a dreadful thing? Any anyway, I made it through my childhood and teens without live music, didn't stop me being massively into music and I went to loads of gigs as a student.

Plus (sorry, I hate these sycophantic mentions but I'm tired and can't formulate my thoughts right now) pretty much everything Bertrand said.

No, but only because I don't want to encourage my daughter to listen to such absolute rubbish.

Non pulsed about their clothes/swimwear/underwear.

I think that people are not really seeing that society is dictating to them what they wear. I agree with bertrandrussell.
If I was on a dessert island on my own I would wear comfy t shirt and shorts, not 6 inch heels and a basque it's just not practical.

Surely there is a difference between a woman (an adult) wearing whatever she wants and a child of 7, 8, 9 who has no adult objective understanding of the choices they're making? My 6 year old likes their tunes on the radio but I would hardly describe their videos as 'progressive' and have not let her watch them since. It all seems very young to me to expose her to this adult world when she still enjoys reading Superworm and playing vets. Yes, I liked music but I certainly had no interest before about 10 in anything other than songbook tunes that I'd play on the Piano or my parents music like Paul Simon. I just think childhood is so short these days, the stages are premature- I went to my first concert at 14 which IMO is appropriate.

I have no problem with their clothes - we should be able to wear whatever without judgement and DD (10) parades around in a leotard and hot pants the majority of the time so doesn't see their clothes as much different. But I wouldn't like her singing their lyrics so no, I wouldn't like her to go. "Hope she getting better sex, hope she ain't faking it like I did" - at 9? No thanks.

Yes , feminism is about choice and freedom. Revealing outfits are only non feminist if we allow ourselves to be viewed as objects who are not in charge of their own sexuality and bodies.
They're bodies .. not a dirty secret x

Also they're not anorexic models .. they're quite varied c

I struggle with Little Mix - I like to think I'm open minded, that I really do believe that anyone should be free to wear what they want when they want without negative observation.......but I did find myself pointing at the TV and in a pearl clutching moment saying 'but her arse is hanging out' .

Not sure about some of the lyrics either....

Men don't sing in their knickers. I think it's more feminist to object to women having to sing in their knickers, while men escape this fate (at least in my 70s mind).

Now it's feminist to say it's OK for women to perform in knickers or cover themselves from top to toe as long as it's their choice. However, as men never adopt these extremes of dress themselves, I really don't think women's choice comes into it, once you drill down.

Haven't answered the q., I'd probably let her go if her friends were going

Pretty sure axel rose sang in his pants? Or was it somebody else?

There needs to be an exception to prove the rule!

Little Mix songs are only immoral if you also have an issue with young women having sex outside of marriage and enjoying sex (shocking eh?)

I think it is very immoral considering their target audience are tweens. I would have a massive issue with my tween having sex, let alone enjoying it. I have my judgy pants hoiked at the parents who are taking their under 10's to listen to these lyrics. If a child went into school and talked about making people come it would be a safeguarding issue. I can't see why it is ok because it is a sleb singing it.

I think it's so weird that these kinds of bands are made to appeal to young kids and yet they dress in such a sexual way. I mean, adults obviously aren't listening to their music (not many anyway) so why not dial it down a bit?

I'm all for women dressing how they want, but with a band like Little Mix, I don't think they have ANYTHING to do with their image/songs - they're just puppets. That's my issue with them.

Take someone like Nicki Minaj - I know she gets a lot of criticism for how she dresses but I don't think she is marketed directly to young children. And I feel like she is wholly in control of her look/her songs/ her brand. For me, no, I wouldn't let my kids see her until they were teenagers but it doesn't bother me to see a woman who is in control of her sexuality and her look.

It DOES bother me to see a band marketed to children dressing like that. It's a bit grim. I'm not really sure how I'd feel about a 9 year old seeing them.

There are a lot of posters talking about choice. Yes, choice is great, but these days it seems like the only way a woman can be successful is if she dresses in a very sexualised way. I think it's a really complicated issue and just saying 'it's a choice' is simplifying matters. Yes, there have always been women who dressed like that, but nowadays I think it's much more prevalent. If you look at, say, Bananarama videos, yes, sometimes they wore sexy stuff but they also wore a lot of jeans and t shirts. I wish there was more of a mix of styles like that.

Or that men were also wearing tiny shorts! Why is it always women who are exposed and sexualised?

I was pleased to see Ariana Grande wearing jeans and a jumper at the Manchester concert. She still looked stylish even though she was covered up.

It is a complicated issue and I'm not sure what I'd do in your position OP.

bertrand I totally agree with your post, 100%.

Dr Well no, she's 2

My daughter is 7 and loves all Ed Sheeran songs and she knows all the lyrics including "my bed sheets smell of you".
You can't stop children knowing and singing these songs .
The Voice UK started last weekend and the kids are aged 8 upwards singing all their favourite songs on TV to win a singing contract and to become famous just like their idols,
Britney Spears, little mix,spice girls, Rihanna,Ariana etc.
That's life and TV .

Dd and her friend went to see Little Mix last year. At 16/17 they felt very old to be there.