To think it's a bit pathetic to start a petition against the Tory/DUP coalition and the losing team should just accept it?

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So now there's a petition against the Tory/DUP coalition!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-results-dup-conservative-theresa-may-petition-deal-northern-ireland-a7783021.html

Why can people (generally left wing) not accept democratic decisions in this country? Labour LOST. Do people not get that? May might need to go into Coalition with the DUP to form a Government as she was 8 seats short of a majority, but she still got over FIFTY SEATS more than Corbyn. And Sturgeon slagging off Theresa May can pipe down too. SNP lost over 20 SEATS, (that went mostly to Conservative!!!) So she has no right to be up on the moral high ground!

Moreover, the whingeing left-wingers would not be moaning and griping if Labour had gone into a coalition with the DUP. It's a case of May can do no right in the eyes of some.

It was the same with the EU referendum. We're not happy with the democratic result of the people, so we will start a petition! And then it turned out 10's of 1000's of signatures were fake!

Why can people not just accept the result? Let's face it, if Corbyn had won, the people who aren't so keen on him would have sucked it up!

And also, let's not kid ourselves; Corbyn got many of his votes by promising the world on a plate, you name it, he was going to deliver it. Free this, free that, benefits for everyone, free uni fees, free school meals, bedroom tax gone, ESA assessments gone, benefit cap gone. Baby unicorns, and a million pounds for everyone!

No WAY would he have been able to deliver what he was promising, and many people know that.

Then after 5 years of undoing EVERYTHING the Conservatives have done, the economy would be screwed, Conservatives would have got back in, and they would have had to spend five years sorting it out. Leaving us in a worse position than we are in now. Do people not get that? Are they so blindsided by this ruggedly handsome urban hero promising the world, that they can't see what a monumental fuck up he would have made of the economy?

I think the young were entranced by him, as he became an urban hero, and was engaging and charming and likeable, whilst May was awkward and stiff. Anyone who said anything against Corbyn, and showed support for May was lambasted.

This ludicrous petition is not going to change anything. Conservatives won. They are going to go into a coalition with the DUP. May is not going to resign. Deal with it.

Ooh, moving the goalposts there alltheprettyseahorses. You said there would be NO protests. Not this level, but none. Zero. That is the mark of a fuckwit, given that we live in a society where there are petitions for every bloody thing.

Also, compare like for like. Labour have never engaged in an arrangement like this with the DUP. Ashworth's remark isn't it (and incidentally, this isn't a coalition).

Ha! They wouldn't be happy at all, Atenco. But Jeremy only wanted peace on all sides so why on earth would they have a problem?

Actually, I think you'll find there is no contradiction between my posts MissShittyBennet. If there were no protests then it would follow that there wasn't the level of vitriol. Corbynites would love the DUP if they got Jeremy into power.

By the way, it's rather rude to call someone a fuckwit - especially when you have deliberately misinterpreted what they said.

I will repost this for allthepretty as i am well helpful

m pretty certain that there would be no protests and petitions if the DUP were going into coalition with Labour rather than the Tories

Due to this never having happened i do not know if the protests would be the same

But you would need to be as thick as pigshit if you didnt think that there would be at least one protest or petition

You're pretty fucking stupid if you think 'corbynites' (really? Is that a thing now?) would just accept the DUP under any circumstances. They would probably be even more outraged than they are now. You kind of expect it of May (and her Mayites?) but it would go against everything Corbyn stands for and therefore his supporters voted for.

Not everyone is as blindly loyal to their beloved leader as you clearly are, some of us actually have principles.

Corbynites would love the DUP if they got Jeremy into power.

I'm going to say this again, slowly:

You. Are. Talking. Bollocks.

Corbynites would love the DUP if they got Jeremy into power.

By the way, it's rather rude to call someone a fuckwit - especially when you have deliberately misinterpreted what they said.

But that first statement quoted above is a blatantly fuckwitted one, and it is impossible to misinterpret it.

Oh right. I speak against Corbyn so I'm a Tory. Now that really is a Corbynite assumption - and one which is dead wrong.

And no, there wouldn't be protests and petitions. The DUP would be praised to the skies. All there would be is a few newspaper columns against the decision and a little bit of grumbling on social media which would be bullied down (based on the reaction to the slightest dissent about Corbyn).

Are you Fiona Hill OP?

SmileEachDay

Bollocks? Oh really? We have all seen how it doesn't matter what is said or done - it is who is saying or doing it that counts. It would be exactly the same here.

And no, there wouldn't be protests and petitions. The DUP would be praised to the skies

Now you're just being goady.

And it's still bollocks. Big hairy ones.

Ceto - I would say the same to you as I said to SmileEachDay.

Not at all Sea

I support Corbyn.

I would be arguing/petitioning/campaigning against the DUP being in coalition/alliance with him. Because of their views.

Hope that clears it up.

I am what I guess you call a Corbynite (although I really don't understand the need to invent silly names for everything these days) Anyway the point is that I would be furious if he started cozying up to the DUP.

I would start a petition, march in protest, as a Labour party member I would be calling for his resignation. I would never in a million years praise the DUP to the skies or anywhere else.

But apparently you know me better than I know myself.

Of course there'd be protests about it if Labour tried to team up with the DUP.

If there's one thing the LP excel at, it's infighting! I should know, I've been a member for years .

I voted Labour. Not only would I be disgusted if they formed a government with DUP, I would feel deeply betrayed.

Yet as a Corbynite you're comfortable with his cosying up to all sorts of disgusting terror groups like Hamas and the IRA. And by the way he didn't have any impact on the peace process. He is a republican extremist.

It's all goady nonsense. No-one voted for a Tory/DUP coalition.
I also don't know a single genuine Tory voter in RL who supports the coalition.They're all appalled.
But unlike the MN Tory massive, the RL Tories that I know understand the precariousness of the situation in NI and their principles stop them supporting anti-women, anti-LGB parties like the DUP.
If you only have blind faith in a party then no amount of posts on here are going to furnish you with the principles or political nous to appreciate the implications of this.

Yes, of course I'm being goady . Because anyone who has a different opinion to you about Corbyn and the consequences of his actions, and chooses to express it, is automatically goady/a troll/a Tory (delete as appropriate depending on forum). Whether you identify as a Corbynite or not, it is very much Corbynite behaviour to react like that.

What did Ashworth do?

Yes, of course I'm being goady

Excellent. I'm glad we agree.

I'm pretty certain that there would be no protests and petitions if the DUP were going into coalition with Labour rather than the Tories

What a deluded viewpoint.

clairewilliams999, you make an extremely good point. Corbyn is widely documented as having shared platforms with Hamas and Hezbollah supporters and has even accepted funding from a Hamas supporter, as documented in the Register of Interests. Are these organisations somehow more acceptable that the DUP? Why no petitions and demonstrations about that?

A number of self confessed Corbyn supporters have told you how we would react to a hypothetical situation yet you seem to think you know better based on nothing.

You're either goady or you're thick. Take your pick.

No need to pick actually, probably both.