Why doesn't Corbyn understand that he lost?

[Sittinonthefloor]

I'm totally bemused! He thinks it's an absolutely 'incredible' result and that May should resign. Has no one told him that more people voted for her and the tories have more MPs? The tories ran an appalling campaign, trying to sell hugely unpopular policies, May comes across dreadfully (all twitchy and brittle) yet still more people voted for her - even with all the bribes he was offering. A decent candidate could have won it for labour, (Yvette cooper?) I know there's been a big swing, but still! Not winning against a poor opponent who's run a dreadful campaign is hardly a cause for celebration.

He was smeared massively by the Conservatives and the newspapers have pretty much called him allsorts of things from a terrorists to looney over the past 2 years and yet a lot of people saw through all that rubbish and he made massive gains.
The arrogance of the Conservatives who called the general election and ended up in a worse position that prior to the election is a spectacular own goal....

I don't understand all this Corbyn bashing - he didn't get in - he's not going to be PM. You have what you wanted, a Tory government. Go away and rejoice, celebrate, run through fields of wheat and leave Corbyn alone.
And on the subject of youth and all the garbage about unicorns and marshmallows - yes my 18 yr old intelligent thoughtful politically aware DS did vote Labour (he was at the polling station at 7am before going to college and then to work) but so did I and I'm 52 and so did my partner who is 56 and so did my neighbour who is 60 and so did my father who is 82. JC's appeal is wide ranging.

Please stop painting left wing politics as some sort of pie in the sky dreamland which people always reject when they are older and wiser.

Sorry but it is.

yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/demographics-dividing-britain/

See graph.
"For every ten years older the person is, the vote for Labour decreases by 6 points."

I rest my case.

MoominFlaps

Eh? By all accounts turn out was high, especially amongst young people.

How many still didn't vote?

Do you really think that threads like these where a huge amount of the discourse is insults, goading and childish name calling is going to get people involved?

Painting - Yeah, pmsl. Those right wing etc whatever else you want to describe them as are going to be in power with the tories. That's our government that will be making decisions on everyone's futures. Yours included. Hilarious.

Boney

These threads are what made me vote for the first time.

Doubt it dolls as they will struggle to get any of their policies through parliament now.

Nobody won

JC - he was far more influential than May in terms of the turn around he achieved in 6 weeks.

All May done was alienate herself the the public. She's lost the people with her pathetically poor leadership and showed herself to be a weak individual indeed.

When one can't be bothered to run up and debate, it's hardly surprising the public ousted her.

Regarding threads like these:

We will not stop.

Ever.

We will not stop.

Who is this 'we' you keep banging on about?

You sound like you have joined some strange sort of cult.

May said she would think that she had lost if she lost even 6 seats.
She lost more than 6 seats.

Charmageddon's 16.43 post may well prove the truest and most succinct summary.

There is so much to do, and it's all so important. Time to stop the point scoring and get on with the grown up hard stuff!

Moomin - you seem so relaxed about a troubled and chaotic government who will be busy blocking each other with even more infighting to add to the laughing stock in the the world's eyes. Not to mention a looming Brexit. Hard Brexit? Soft Brexit? How about "get what you're given, because you're totally discredited" Brexit. Would you really think that's preferable to negotiating from a position of a clear majority government?

As long as TM has egg on her face, though, right...

*potentially troubled - we won't know until the coming months/years

It's groundhog day for me as it was like I as waking up all over again in February 1974.....

Oh, sorry I haven't read the entire thread, but Jeremy Corbyn has done incredibly well for someone who has had all the mainstream media against him from the start. And no, another candidate wouldn't have done better, because the candidate of all the mainstream media was that May women and another candidate would have produced a mealy-mouthed neo-conservative manifesto that would have left voters without any real choice.

What is the point of saying another Labour leader would have won? The election wouldn't have been called if Labour had a different leader - the whole Tory campaign was predicated on the 'unelectability' of Corbyn (who...erm...kept getting elected). It was a massive personal attack on Corbyn - the terrorist, pacifist, incompetent bloke who was going to lose resoundingly. There would have been no election at all of Corbyn hadn't been so despised.

This is true and if his own party had the bollocks to back him instead of trying to undermine him, they might well have won yesterday.

As long as TM has egg on her face, though, right... yeah that seems to the general idea.

We're all losers now May is climbing into bed with her prehistoric 'friends'.

But Theresa May is still the biggest loser! Already had the job but this vanity project of a GE cost her and the Tories their majority.

Moomin - you seem so relaxed about a troubled and chaotic government

Of course I am - I've been living with one since Cameron came into power.

You sound like you have joined some strange sort of cult.

Get rid of the Tories cult.

I find funny he thinks he's won plus I find it quite funny that you generally think that labour will have much say considering they lost by 57 and possibly 58 seats,I can't see what influence labour can have when it comes to voting in the commons on any vote especially when they don't exactly agree with the minority party's.so I don't see liberal,labour snp etc getting together to vote against conservatives on a daily basis.
Plus with the Sinn Fein abstenance it really means that a majority vote is 222 not 226 on any vote in the commons so if was all out war against the conservatives every vote they would only need to find 4 extra votes each time and considering good old JC hasn't exactly full support of his own members Never mind other minor party's I don't exactly see the problem conservatives getting them 4 swaying votes.
And don't forget that when most votes happen it's not exactly a packed house.so it's only those in attendance that you need a majority of.
Interesting times to come I feel

As I opined on another thread
if labour (and corbyn) had won 318 seats and the Conservatives were sat on 261 seats you could bet your bottom dollar - it would be praised to the skies and how labour would save the country. they only would have to get into bed with the SNP/LD/Greens/DUP to get their giveaway manifesto through

Sinn Fein have just announced a press conference.

They might be taking their seats.

How long before another election is called because she has resigned or been pushed? then it is all up in the air, so do not rejoice just yet!!!!!