TO BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED AT A HUNG PARLIAMENT

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This is the best outcome by miles. No hard brexit. (The city now predicts soft Brexit or even no Brexit!!!) No more crazy ideas by either side. Compromise. Tories given a good slap in the face for this stupid election.

This is the first election day in a long time with a good result!

Bye Bye TM

Can't see BJ wanting to take over this mess.

Time for JC to keep the momentum going

"It's the worst case scenario whatever side of the fence you sit on."
No it really isn't for many, many people.

Imo, with Corbyn as leader, it's the best we could hope for.

anyone who understands the machinations of politics knows that hung parliaments and the resulting fallouts are really bad for democracy

Seems to work fine in Germany and other countries - and worked 2010-2015 whatever your views on the actual policies.

I'm not sure why we in the UK think we are above this sort of thing.

I cannot fathom these Tory leaders who have TWICE gambled and TWICE lost in this way

This!

I don't know why people are so happy.

A coalition with the DUP is much worse than a solely-Tory government.

the eu will tear us up now

What are you talking about?

How much extra time will be spent now deciding what we do whilst we are under threat?

They won't and they can't. The senior civil servants who keep the wheels turning behind the scenes - and who don't change with every regime - will still be on hand to advise. COBRA would still be held and the govt of the day would be under significant pressure to act - and they know this.

No party has said it wants to be soft on terror. The main difference between the two parties was ideological, in that Corbyn advocated talking and May said that she would change the Human Rights Convention in order to deport terrorists. Two issues with this:

• firstly every single govt has had talks with terror groups - this is how the Irish peace process was negotiated - so to imply that this makes someone a terrorist sympathiser is incorrect. I don't approve of JC's position with Hamas and some of the things that he's done, but the media have made much of him talking to the IRA during the Troubles and calling him a terrorist sympathiser, whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that Thatcher and her govt were doing exactly the same thing behind the scenes.

• secondly, changing the Human Rights Convention is not that simple or quick and quite frankly is just a throwaway soundbite which is designed to inflame those who are enraged by 'elf and safety' and 'the human rights brigade', but is essentially meaningless.

Labour is against Police budget cuts whereas May was pushing them through, so in real terms when the security services are saying there is not enough resource available to follow up or monitor every threat, then additional bums on seats is a good thing. As evidenced by the fact that the increased Police presence in London recently was only possible because they bussed in officers from neighbouring forces.

Finally the tragic incident involving Lee Rigby happened during the last coalition govt - as did other terrorist incidents. The fact that there was a coalition govt rather than a single party with a clear majority, did not prevent or hinder COBRA being convened and the security services responding accordingly.

If you want to see the city's opinion on this, look at what has happened to the pound (down over 2%) and the FTSE 250 (not 100)

The market is responding to the uncertainty right now, because there is currently no govt. Once something is sorted out the market is likely to recover. They bounce up and down regularly but markets don't respond well to uncertainty - but the uncertainty is not going to be long-term, so I would not worry too much about it at the moment.

I can see it's messy and I can't quite figure what the result will mean. I am very aware of who the DUP are - again I am not sure how that will play out.

I know I sound incredibly naive but on a very simple level it feels so so good to see voters making a different choice. Some things already felt good - like the Progressive Alliance at work - but I was still preparing to wake up to an utterly depressing result. Instead i got sucked in to staying up all night and I'm so glad - I feel hopeful for the first time in quite a while.

Oh and I understand it all - I loved watching Borgen!

impossibledreams
exactly
this is a disaster for every voter
those who voted tactically to oust the tories - will not get what you want
those who remained true to their party allegiances - will not get what they want
those who wanted indyref2- will not get what they want
the uninformed young who voted to get 'free uni' - will not get what they want
two consolations:

• Salmond lost his seat to the Conservatives

• Jeremy corby will not be pm - or if he is will not last long

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday

I'd agree with that if Corbyn actually won enough seats to form a Government but even with Diane Abbott counting there aren't enough.

histinyhandsarefrozen we begin negotiations with the EU next week. There is no Government at the moment and therefore instability whether a CON/DUP Coalition or minority Conservative government. So the UK is not in a good place to begin negotiations with the EU because there's no mandate to do so. Which means the U.K. is more forced to accept what the UK offers rather than truly 'negotiate'.

At 10.10 last night I said I do not understand why any Brexiteer wouldn't vote Tory.

Because I'm a born and bred conservative and brexiteer with a disabled son who depised David Cameron. When I do the whole should you vote for things I come out green/lib dem/labour with a side order of UKIP. You try and work out who to vote for under those circumstances.

Add to the mix my actively UKIP parents (dad was asked to stand two years ago but refused) should be labour but actually die hard conservative boyfriend and extreme corbynite. The last few years have been interesting. Politics have been banned at family gatherings for jolly good reason. We were only just getting things together after the referendum and TM called an election.

Politics are complicated. But the one thing everyone needed right now was to pull together. A general election and a hung parliament won't be that.

I can't see why Corbyn is crowing about forming a minority government- the DUP will give the Conservatives a slim majority.

DUP absolutely do not want a hard Brexit. This I count as a win.

The EU will absolutely tear us up now and everyone will suffer

I find this unlikely. It's not in the EU's interest to act this way, as they stand to lose out as well. The issue was that May was having to pander to her party's Eurosceptics as well as the UKIP voters, in order to try and secure her support. Her problem was that her soundbites about being 'bloody difficult' and 'no deal being better than a bad deal' did not go down well in Brussels. You're far more likely to reach a good compromise if you go into the negotiations with a collaborative approach as a combative style only serves to make your counterparties defensive in return (because they can't look weak in their respective parliaments).

Another reckless gamble by the conservatives that leaves the country in a precarious state, because they continue to put party before country. Didn't really like either lab or con policies and glad of this result as it makes Brexit much less likely to happen.

What the EU offers, sorry.

I can't see why Corbyn is crowing about forming a minority government

It's bluster. He doesn't have the numbers to do it.

May's allegedly hanging on for "stability". Hasn't she realised that constantly harping on about how she's stable has made her a laughing stock?

The EU will absolutely tear us up now and everyone will suffer

Or we could recognise that the nation has come back to its senses and forget the whole idiotic idea of Brexit.

PaulDacresFeministConscience there's likely to be a leadership challenge soon - about a year ago TM was the only credible option. So people calling now for her to resign, with very few other potential leaders about (and dodgy ones at that) then it doesn't make it obvious that there is anyone or any opportunity for a collaborative approach.

The Tory's will form a collalision with the DUP. You thought the Tory's were bad? Just wait?

The DUP generally side with the Tories anyway, it's just this way there are fewer MPs who will. They can't push through anything radical as there are only 10 of them.

Yoshimi: I'm another one who watched Borgen! Compromise and deals are the bread and butter of politics in countries like Denmark so all the people spouting doom and gloom (mostly petulant Tories, I see) have got it wrong.

The Tories will no doubt form a deal with the DUP, though I'm sure May will have to go. But they won't have a mandate for a hard Brexit so all the Brexit negotiations will have to be properly discussed and voted on in parliament. That can only be a good thing.

Some of the results were very very tight.

Zac Goldsmith got his seat back for the Tories by 45 votes.

Ian Austin held onto his seat for Labour by 22 votes

Everything will be an argument for the sake of it

That's exactly what I'm afraid of. If we can't have a genuinely centrist party then in principle coalitions can be a good thing with everyone working together for a common good, but whether our current crop of politicians are capable of this is another matter

It's also why I think May should have gone for just a three week campaign, though we're beyond that now of course ... and while Corbyn as PM would have been unthinkable, I'm not convinced Boris would be all that much better