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TO BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED AT A HUNG PARLIAMENT

897 replies

rolopolovolo · 09/06/2017 06:47

This is the best outcome by miles. No hard brexit. (The city now predicts soft Brexit or even no Brexit!!!) No more crazy ideas by either side. Compromise. Tories given a good slap in the face for this stupid election.

This is the first election day in a long time with a good result!

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sparechange · 09/06/2017 08:10

Anyone who thinks a hung parliament is good for the nation doesn't understand politics and anyone who thinks a hung parliament is going to be good for a soft brexit doesn't understand negotiations or politics

If you want to see the city's opinion on this, look at what has happened to the pound (down over 2%) and the FTSE 250 (not 100)

Even the BBC have said this is going to make the brexit negotiations 'fiendishly harder' because of the hugely weakened position

No one benefits from years of hamstrung government, let alone when the country is facing the myriad of issues that we are supposed to be dealing with at the moment

Bohemond · 09/06/2017 08:11

Still at last some sense. Anyone who thinks we can now negotiate a soft brexit is an idiot.

CheeseQueen · 09/06/2017 08:12

People who think a hung parliament is a good thing, really need to give themselves a damn good shake. We do NOT need the instability that causes. It's the very last thing we need.

This.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 09/06/2017 08:12

Well some people, probably around 48%, are glad the Brexit negotiations will be harder because we don't want it! If it means we have a much softer Brexit, then so be it.

LottieandMia · 09/06/2017 08:13

It's the best outcome we could have hoped for. Corbyn has gone up in my estimation and I think people came round to him because they see him as honest.

allegretto · 09/06/2017 08:13

I worry about an organisation that won't compromise on order to ensure the stability of a member state.

They did compromise. We didn't. It would compromise the rest of the EU if the UK got exactly what they wanted and to hell with everyone else.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 09/06/2017 08:13

Sigh I understand politics, thank you. It says much about you that you think we don't get it.

Mays pursuit of hard brexit was a disaster for this country. I am happy she is hamstrung.

Increasinglymiddleaged · 09/06/2017 08:13

Shakespeare no because to get things through isn't as easy, so they can't just do what they want.

If you want to see the city's opinion on this, look at what has happened to the pound (down over 2%) and the FTSE 250 (not 100)

The pound and FTSE go up and down. It's position in a couple of months is what matters not in a few hours after the election.

Even the BBC have said this is going to make the brexit negotiations 'fiendishly harder' because of the hugely weakened position

LOL yes so it must be true then Hmm

MiddleEnglandLives · 09/06/2017 08:15

I don't think Europe would see us as baffling because of this result. It's quite common to have coalitions in the Netherlands, for instance.

Why would a National Government automatically be a weakened position? It's not that "we can't make our minds up". I think of it as an opportunity to re-forge a United Kingdom front.It could actually be an opportunity for some common sense to emerge and the influence of party tribalism to wane.

Most likely it won't be of course. But I always like to live in hope.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 09/06/2017 08:15

Gosh you can see the same arrogance TM showed, spewing all over MN.

Lets be clear, there's will only be instability if the Torys insist on hard Brexit, pumping millions into Grammars instead of spreading that out to ALL school, etc etc. If they moderate their policies there will not be instability!

MiddleEnglandLives · 09/06/2017 08:16

Our top politicians would have todo some bloody work for a change and act like statesmen instead of grinning public schoolboys playing conkers.

Draylon · 09/06/2017 08:16

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sparechange · 09/06/2017 08:17

But surely in a hung parliament all current policies remain in place unless a majority agree otherwise - so things like policing and education plus tax remain the same?

'Hung parliament' just means there is currently no clear government. In the next few days, a government will be formed as either a formal coalition (Tory/DUP) or a minority government (Tories) if TM can convince the queen that she can form and maintain a government.

The ruling government can still write their own budgets and queens speeches without having to put anything to a vote, so can obviously make changes to a number of policies but there will be issues which need to be voted on

When votes are tight, you get horse trading. "I'll support your position on education if you support mine on policing"
"I'll back your bill on terrorism if you vote against them on health"

Which is where it gets dangerous. And why anyone who understands the machinations of politics knows that hung parliaments and the resulting fallouts are really bad for democracy

greenberet · 09/06/2017 08:17

Five years of arguing, indecision and idiots.

This sums it up but you forgot to mention the cost of putting on this election and the cost in dealing with the fallout.

This is why there are cuts left right & centre because money continues to be wasted trying to get people to agree or at the very least compromise which most people are incapable of doing -just look at some of the abusive comments on here - says it all.

Society will continue to destroy itself until we have nothing left and we may then realise how much time and effort and cost went into fighting and ultimately achieving nothing

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 08:17

Well some people, probably around 48%, are glad the Brexit negotiations will be harder because we don't want it!

A large proportion of that 48% have accepted the result. If we hadn't then the LibDems would have got a bigger number of seats.

Both Labour and Tories manifestos state it will happen.

impossibledreams · 09/06/2017 08:17

I cannot believe that people are celebrating this outcome Hmm

It's the worst case scenario whatever side of the fence you sit on.

All the 'right in TM's face' is ridiculously childish. The EU will absolutely tear us up now and everyone will suffer.

So all the people who tactically voted Labour aren't going to see any of their free tuition fees, free everything, save the NHS, police, schools etc.

Raggydolly3 · 09/06/2017 08:18

The Tory's will form a collalision with the DUP. You thought the Tory's were bad? Just wait?

ShatnersWig · 09/06/2017 08:18

People who think a hung parliament is a good thing, really need to give themselves a damn good shake. We do NOT need the instability that causes. It's the very last thing we need.

If you feel that way, then your ire should be directed at TM who decided to go to the polls rather than see out a safe three years that she had left to run. She kept saying she needed a mandate for Brexit negotiations; bollocks did she (and I voted Remain). She had a slim majority of seats in the commons, the backing apparently of 52% of the population and the majority of MPs of all parties agreeing to trigger A50 because of that 52%.

Even if you thought she was right to try and get the landslide, she totally and utterly failed to engage wit the electorate by basically ignoring them as much as possible, refusing to be positive about policies but keep repeating "strong and stable", making umpteen UY-turns on a fairly nasty manifesto and running an awful campaign making it pretty much solely about Brexit, allowing Corbyn to come in under the radar, confound all expectations to gain a much greater share of the vote, by focusing on positives.

I cannot fathom these Tory leaders who have TWICE gambled and TWICE lost in this way. It's humiliating. She has reaped what she has sown (no doubt in that wheat field).

If it is a disaster, it's not due to the electorate (note how many votes were incredibly, incredibly close).

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 09/06/2017 08:18

If you want to see the city's opinion on this, look at what has happened to the pound (down over 2%) and the FTSE 250 (not 100)

Well it could do with a sharp correction. The market has increased dramatically over the past year, due to Brexit and the pound dropping.
Stop scaremongering!!

BewareOfDragons · 09/06/2017 08:19

Delighted. If Labour couldn't win outright, this is the not best option as far as I'm concerned.

Despise the Tories.

GerdaLovesLili · 09/06/2017 08:20

And this is exactly why PR of a truly representative sort would be a good thing.

A hung parliament will be unworkable, coalitions never really work, and no doubt we'll be voting in another GE before long.

Labour might well have won if they hadn't stuck with the toxic trio in charge (JC, JMcD and DA) Imagine that.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 09/06/2017 08:20

Oh stop with the in-fighting and insults, can't you? It's pathetic. First the wrangling about WOMEN who don't vote and then WOMEN squabbling about the election results... Why?

For anybody interested, this is quite a good explanation of what a hung parliament means:
edition.cnn.com/2017/06/08/europe/uk-election-hung-parliament/index.html

If we get a soft Brexit then that would be a marvellous thing in my book and that's what I'm hopeful of.

What makes me the happiest is that UKIP have ZERO seats now and even Farage threatening to re-enter politics (again) doesn't detract from the fact that the party is not popular here and will hopefully never raise its ugly head again.

I'm wondering if the people who've felt so saddened and angered at the 'racist' overtones of the Brexit result would feel in any way reassured that UKIP have not been voted in, therefore giving rise to the possibility that many Brexiteers wanted the 'out' vote for reasons other than immigration. I hope so.

swimmerforlife · 09/06/2017 08:20

As a labour supporter I was overjoyed at a hung parliament,

However now I'm shitting myself that the tories would go into coalition with DUP (but my god they would have to be desperate) and also that Boris could quite possibly become Prime Minister. All whilst we are suppose to start negotiating Brexit in 10 days.

What a fucking mess.

Butterbean212 · 09/06/2017 08:20

It's a blooming mess

LondonNicki · 09/06/2017 08:20

This is what happens when the government ignore the 48% who voted to remain. They have spoken. I'm very happy.