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TO BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED AT A HUNG PARLIAMENT

897 replies

rolopolovolo · 09/06/2017 06:47

This is the best outcome by miles. No hard brexit. (The city now predicts soft Brexit or even no Brexit!!!) No more crazy ideas by either side. Compromise. Tories given a good slap in the face for this stupid election.

This is the first election day in a long time with a good result!

OP posts:
PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 07:56

The SNP will not form a coalition with the Tories.

Labour don't have anything near the numbers to form a coalition with anyone.

TearsOnTheGround · 09/06/2017 07:57

Excited there is a hung parliament? Really. Sounds like you don't understand politics at all. At a time when we need a majority government, on either side really, so we can go into brexit without looking like a laughing stock of a country who can't make their minds up Confused

The tories will still rule, it just won't be a stable government if they pair up with another party to go into brexit. Angry labour voters saying the tories did this and that from 2010-15 forgetting about the lib dems. If you think the tories have "lost" this time then your wrong really because it just be business as usual with a coalition like in 2010. I wouldn't get too excited!

fakenamefornow · 09/06/2017 07:57

Gosh it's going down as the worsted gamble in history isn't it.

I think that was the EU referendum, also a reckless Tory gamble.

AnnaT45 · 09/06/2017 07:57

I am very worried. We need a strong, united and decisive government with all the issues around terrorism. No one seems to have mentioned this?

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 09/06/2017 07:58

Middle - no the SNP are left wing, which is why Labour is really struggling north of the border because the only key hook that Kezia Dugdale can really campaign on is IndyRef2. They differ on small stuff but by and large they are viewed as left wing, so if you are a lefty voter who wants independence - or who isn't too fussed but is left wing - then you'll vote SNP.

I am really not a fan of the DUP (understatement), but am hopeful that if they think they can start introducing religious issues or blocking equality or pro-choice driven legislation, then there should be sufficient Tories who would defy the whip and vote with Labour, the Lib Dems and the SNP.

StillGotCake · 09/06/2017 07:58

The notion that the election result means "no hard brexit" takes a lot for granted.

Not least of which is that the eventual brexit deal needs to be agreed with the other members of the EU. It's a negotiation not a menu.

TM was a remainer. A large majority would have given her more room to make the concessions necessary to achieve a "soft" brexit.

I'm no Tory - thrilled to see Labour's resurgence - just saying that the assumption that the result makes soft brexit more likely is questionable.

TM is toast. Boris - who led the Leave campaign - waits in the wings...

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 09/06/2017 07:58

I do understand politics...LSE my dear

what was it we were told last year? it's democracy innit

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 07:59

They are SUPPOSED to be left and right wing.

They will HAVE to BOTH compromise in a hung parliament.

Go form a centrist party if you want one.

I'm not a politician.

Elendon · 09/06/2017 07:59

I think it's a great outcome for a soft Brexit (soft as a baby's bottom Brexit) and I also think that the Tories will be very uncomfortable with having the DUP as partners.

It would be better to have a National Government to negotiate out of Brexit and then hold an election. The Tories position today is the worst possible outcome for them.

Well done to all the young people who voted.

HappyFlappy · 09/06/2017 07:59

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waitforitfdear · 09/06/2017 08:00

True fake

I wonder if Brexit will actually happen?

Europe must see us as baffling

Toffeelatteplease · 09/06/2017 08:01

The referendum was necessary. Without it UKIP would have gained more momentum. 30% of the vote roughly stealing votes forecast for labour and Tory. It was a very real risk

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 09/06/2017 08:01

Anna - but the previous govt wasn't strong and stable on Terrorism and home security, so nothing has really changed. There is a strong possibility that it may get better, as the Tories have now lost their majority meaning that there is a much better chance of them being blocked on cutting Police budgets.

May talked about 'protecting' the terrorism budget but in real terms it meant a cut as it was 'protected' rather than 'increased' - but with the number of service Police officers falling by over 20k since 2009, the budget needs to keep pace with the increased threat.

MiddleEnglandLives · 09/06/2017 08:02

It really ought to be a National government that negotiates Brexit anyway. It's a big enough move for one.

I sit corrected on the SNP then.

indigox · 09/06/2017 08:03

Yes, instability and chaos is exactly what we wanted.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 09/06/2017 08:05

If much rather have a hung parliament than a Cons Majority. Considering TM had a 20% lead at the start if this fiasco, a hung parliament is the best we could hope for.
And the scaremongering going on "oh it's a disaster" is hysterical in both senses of the word. What it means is the Torys will have to stop being so bloody right wing. As well as a much softer Brexit, hopefully the Grammar schools bill won't get through and the billions it would have cost will go to ALL schools!

AnnaT45 · 09/06/2017 08:05

paul a government is never going to be in total agreement on anything. However one that's a majority is going to agree more than a coalition? How much extra time will be spent now deciding what we do whilst we are under threat?

I agree extra policing is required which I believe was something all parties pledged.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 09/06/2017 08:05

Why do people say we don't understand politics?

If I wasn't feeling so cheerful, I'd say that was rude Wink

allegretto · 09/06/2017 08:05

TM was a remainer. A large majority would have given her more room to make the concessions necessary to achieve a "soft" brexit.

Well she should have made that clear then, shouldn't she? Not much evidence of her aiming for a soft Brexit since she sold her soul and decided she was no longer a remainer.

Toffeelatteplease · 09/06/2017 08:07

A hung parliament/coalition DOES NOT mean instability

A good compromise leaves all parties dissatisfied. It's no good if no one can agree on anything in the the face of an enormous EU bully who can afford for EU to fall apart and so needs to make an example of Britain if it tries to leave.

Remember this is an organisation who wouldn't even compromise on freedom of movement and immigration which would have probably satisfied a fair number of no voters in order to avoid a British referendum.

Ceto · 09/06/2017 08:07

Given this situation, the sensible option would be neither hard nor soft Brexit, but no Brexit. Come what may, we're not going to come out of it well.

Toffeelatteplease · 09/06/2017 08:08

I worry about an organisation that won't compromise on order to ensure the stability of a member state.

bananafish81 · 09/06/2017 08:08

. At a time when we need a majority government, on either side really, so we can go into brexit without looking like a laughing stock of a country who can't make their minds up

But we already are a laughing stock. We've basically told the EU that we're dumping them because they're a bunch of arseholes, that we're gonna run out without paying our bill and oh even though we're breaking up can we still come round for a shag when we fancy it?

TM keeps parroting on about getting a good deal, but refuses to articulate what a good deal looks like, or indeed a bad deal that we would walk away from. A good deal is what we have currently. The EU has no interest in giving us any concessions, they hold all the cards. And TM and DD are already laughing stocks, and held in contempt by the EU leaders and negotiators.

Increasinglymiddleaged · 09/06/2017 08:09

Europe must see us as baffling

We aren't the only country who are baffling in the EU, it's just that we are more newly baffling possibly....

I agree OP. For me the balance had got to the stage where the idea of a majority of 100 pushing through hard Brexit without investment was a recipe for disaster. The DUP's mandate is soft Brexit and they are going to have to rethink in relation to public spending. There will be a majority anyway just about with DUP.

Shakespearesglobe · 09/06/2017 08:09

But surely in a hung parliament all current policies remain in place unless a majority agree otherwise - so things like policing and education plus tax remain the same?