TO BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED AT A HUNG PARLIAMENT

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This is the best outcome by miles. No hard brexit. (The city now predicts soft Brexit or even no Brexit!!!) No more crazy ideas by either side. Compromise. Tories given a good slap in the face for this stupid election.

This is the first election day in a long time with a good result!

Well-done Corbyn. You still LOST

Didn't Elmo get 3 votes in Maidenhead? Send him to be our chief negotiator with Lord Buckethead.

Pound down 2% oh noessssss!

I thought the pound down 17-18% post-EURef was good news and a sign of our impending booming economy?

TM had to pull an election. She had no mandate otherwise

We don't vote for a president in this country.

We vote for a local MP. The party with the most MPs rules. The party picks the leader of the party who, if the party is in power, becomes the Prime minister. The electorate doesn't actually give a personal mandate. The mandate came from the party and from the referendum. TM had those. That's the way our system works.

It was arrogant. She assumed she would win

*Can't understand how people can be happy with this result.

Now a minority gov is possible - the EU is going to piss all over us

No, the UK have already shat all over themselves. Most people understand this, at home, and in Europe.

The EU do not want to piss all over us - that's not in their interests. All this pretending that they are enemies, out to screw us, is Farage/May propaganda.

I think it would be really helpful to step-out of that defensive mind-set.

It's not the point that the DUP have so few MPs. They're about to be thrust into the political limelight and will want to make hay while the sun shines. They know that they can force the Tories to support at least some of their bigotry via quid pro quo, because suddenly the DUP are necessary to the Tories to get the Tory agenda through.

If anyone wants to do some maths quicker than me, there's historical info at www.ukpolitical.info/ConvLab.htm .

Agree Toffee she thought she would crush Labour for the foreseeable future but neglected to consider that her own record as HS (rising immigration, cuts to the police etc) would come under scrutiny. The Hubris to recklessly put the "dementia tax" in the manifesto thinking it would barely register on her massive landslide.

TheProLifeBergensAreComing that's exactly my worry (that and the warning in your username).

YANBU

I'm really really hoping that Corbyn and his Parliamentary party get their shit together and form a storming opposition. Haul the Tory fuckers over the coals for everything. Not just Brexit.

There's too many Labour voters coming out of the woodwork today saying they voted purely to screw over TM, or screw up Europe negotiations and .

Goodness, sounds like the bizarre voters who voted for Brexit because they wanted to screw over Cameron and the elites! They also appeared to have very little idea about how bad this is for our entire population.

I'm struggling to understand why anyone, no matter which party you support, thinks a hung parliament is a good thing?

Because they tend to lead to pragmatic and moderate governments that are not ideologically driven. Consensus rules.

However, with the DUP tail wagging the Tory dog, I'm not sure that this will apply in this case.

The people I've spoken to who voted Labour did so because of love of the NHS, public services, the legal system, the welfare state, disabled rights, workers' rights, the elderly, the young, society in general. None did so to screw over anyone, quite the opposite.

^^ Yes our country is crumbling whilst we allow the Torys to sell us off. That is why my DC and I voted Labour

The rest is just a bonus. Karma is such a bitch isn't it.

Because they tend to lead to pragmatic and moderate governments that are not ideologically driven. Consensus rules.

^^ I would normally agree with this but cant see with corbyn being a hard line far left idealist - how any sort of moderation would be possible?

I wanted a hung parliament.
We had a coalition government in 2010 and the sky didn't fall down.

This provides us with decent opposition and holds the Tories to account. Theresa May wanted to reduce opposition which, quite frankly, was scary.

The Tories don't know what they're doing with Brexit. It's new territory. So we need all the bloody challenge we can get.

Vango, yes of course if you have a vote you should use it but why on earth could so many youngsters not be bothered before?

corbyn being a hard line far left idealist

^his policies are not hard left.

*Haul the tories over the coals for everything. And Brexit.
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And Corbyn really worked hard against Brexit during the Referendum didn't he. NOT!!! I am still so disappointed about that. He was useless and invisible.

I don't get what a 'soft' brexit or a 'hard' brexit is. That seems to be an idea of our own making. From the European point of view we are in or out. And we are still out.

And we are still bloody out.

I am absolutely delighted. Faith in humanity almost restored.

Also massive silver lining to general chaos is the brexit mandate.

Nobody wants a hard brexit and nobody knows what the fuck a red, white and blue brexit even is.

We are starting to look like the Italians though with their chaotic politics, I am losing my higher ground on teasing all the Italians I talk to on their madness. We're a blinking circus for Europe at the moment - roll up, roll up, watch Britain self destruct!

spiney - Yes, Corbyn caused Brexit. I think he is a total dick - also scheming and manipulative.

Also - EU have said they will rip up our article 50 letter and forget about it if we ask them too - we are not out yet!