TO BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED AT A HUNG PARLIAMENT

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This is the best outcome by miles. No hard brexit. (The city now predicts soft Brexit or even no Brexit!!!) No more crazy ideas by either side. Compromise. Tories given a good slap in the face for this stupid election.

This is the first election day in a long time with a good result!

A hung parliament isn't the worst result (that would be a Tory majority...) but not liking the idea of them allying with DUP.

Nobody wants a hard brexit

That's almost as arrogant an assumption as theresa may's

Well as May doesn't have a working majority or a mandate for a hard brexit. I think the people have spoken

The majority do not want a hard Brexit

why on earth could so many youngsters not be bothered before

Because they felt disengaged? Because they didn't care enough? Because we don't teach a basic understanding of our own democratic process in school? Who knows? But what's clear is that a man with a social conscience has galvanised them like never before so that can only be a good thing.

Question

What is a hard brexit?

What is a soft brexit?

Sorry to derail.

How did Corbyn cause Brexit fgs? Why is everyone so keen to blame Corbyn for all the world's woes? He didn't even want to be leader of the Labour Party originally, someone else persuaded him to stand for the sake of democracy and lo and behold he won. Fair and Square!

It was Cameron who called the Referendum: it was turncoat extraordinaire Boris Johnson plus that idiot Gove who saturated the media with lies and disinformation, seeking to win their little playground games and score points without considering the real-world implications.

You could also blame all of the top layer for ignoring the conditions that led to the rise of UKIP. I'd argue that Corbyn was the only person prepared to speak for the people in those conditions (the loss of real social security blankets and the slow demise of the industrial base).

I think - I may be wrong that a hard Brexit is no single market/no freedom of movement whereas soft Brexit will have this.

That may be a gross misrepresentation by me so if someone else could clarify ..

This does show something of the degree of labour bias in the current carving up of the seats. Look how much of the country is blue - there are many more tiny red ones!

Proud of youngsters going to vote!! I am not proud that so many of our youngsters couldn't be bothered to vote until the chance came to get back at all the old/racist/too stupid to vote/old etc people who voted in the referendum.

Nor am I proud that probably a lot of them voted labour because of the promise of free tuition fees. This is unlikely to happen and to be honest why should it? Oh yes lets have even more youngsters going to uni and then working in Asda on the tills

We voted to leave the EU. We did not vote to leave the EEA. However most people think the intention was to leave both and that it is the will of the people to leave both. It should have been clearer on the original ballot paper however.

I am pretty sure May will meet the Queen at 12.30pm and ask to form a Government as is her right as the British people voted the Tories in as the party with most seats.

yes of course if you have a vote you should use it but why on earth could so many youngsters not be bothered before?

Because they needed a very sharp lesson in what happens if you don't. And that's what they got. The young people that voted in the referendum voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU.

They woke up to the power of the vote. And they used what they learned. Good for them.

But we already are a laughing stock. We've basically told the EU that we're dumping them because they're a bunch of arseholes, that we're gonna run out without paying our bill and oh even though we're breaking up can we still come round for a shag when we fancy it?

This ^ good analogy

Look how much of the country is blue - there are many more tiny red ones!

Uh-huh.

They didn't wake up to the power of the vote. They got promised free sweeties by Corbyn. Who is basically planning to take them by mugging the shop keeper!

Dandan pretty picture....errmm the big blue ones have less density of people per acre than the tiny red ones. Cities red. Countryside in the main blue

Look how much of the country is blue - there are many more tiny red ones!

Now map that against the demographic spread of the population... Those "tiny red ones" are in the highly populated cities.

Not a Corbyn fan - (he is OK but I don't want him for PM.) But I wouldn't blame him for Brexit! That was Cameron's fault, for not dealing with immigration like he said he would.

Anyhoo. I think the hung parliament is a disaster. The whole country is divided, families are falling out big time, a 3 way between Labour, SNP, and Libdems would be a disaster as they would try to stop Brexit, Theresa May assumed she would win by a huge majority and didn't, and she should never have called this election. She has destabilised the country now and no-one knows what to do next.,

And as for the OP. No! I am NOT pleased with a 'hung parliament!'

Adding my voice among the happy people.

Its a narrow analogy and we offer the EU a ton more than a quick shag.

I have very strong views and my DD has an inkling what those views are - but not really. She doesn't know which way I voted in Ref - or yesterday....when she asks me Q I try and give both sides...I dont want to brain wash her.

Yet she comes from school saying her 9 year old friends all want Corbyn to win because he will stop them from having to go back to the EU ( mixed eu families) and he is a nice man and TM is nasty I guess some people are so wrapped up in this idea - L good - T bad - that they do put aside their morals to brain wash their dc. Because its the right thing to do to raise a new wave of brain washed little socialists - backed up by the teachers of course putting their very L slant on stuff they show the pupils...

The left have their hands on all levers of the state.

why on earth could so many youngsters not be bothered before

Because rarely have youngsters been treated so poorly and like that dont matter for such a long time.

But equally the OAP vote has seemed so secure and the young vote so insecure there seemed little point in formulating policies that benefit the young. They were vote winners

Lib Dems dumped the issue that meant something to the young vote (drop tuition fees) to go into coalition.

Now Labour has taken a punt. Started talking to them. It worked showed they might vote in the right circumstances. They care, but no one has given them anything worth voting for

I predict in the future much more balance in policies aimed at the young and older voters

Proud of youngsters going to vote!! I am not proud that so many of our youngsters couldn't be bothered to vote until the chance came to get back at all the old/racist/too stupid to vote/old etc people who voted in the referendum.

Wow, this is fascinating stuff. Young people voted to spite you?

Nor am I proud that probably a lot of them voted labour because of the promise of free tuition fees. This is unlikely to happen and to be honest why should it? Oh yes lets have even more youngsters going to uni and then working in Asda on the tills

Nice. Fancy believing that young people are the future of this country.

I'm thrilled to see that they are getting political. They have woken up to how they have been screwed over.

Sigh. Ok have a nice leftie article about boundaries favouring labour then:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/14/boundary-changes-gerrymandering-labour-constituency

Agreed Toffee

The country was divided back when Blair decided to change the face and nature of the UK all on his todd...without caring what the people of the UK thought - it was divided then and since like never before. This election just highlights the divisions already there - it has not created them.