TO BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED AT A HUNG PARLIAMENT

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This is the best outcome by miles. No hard brexit. (The city now predicts soft Brexit or even no Brexit!!!) No more crazy ideas by either side. Compromise. Tories given a good slap in the face for this stupid election.

This is the first election day in a long time with a good result!

"Not sure how anyone in this country is actually suffering under immigration"

Really? You are still not sure on this? That's odd. Perhaps look at Lincolnshire (Sleaford etc.) and Lancashire (Morecambe as one example).

I'm not worried about the DUP. They can not influence mainland policy but have a HUGE vested interest for a soft brexit.

May didn't even consult NO before triggering article 50. Gave no vyidence or help over the issues at Stormont.

Don't forget SF is gaining in NO too. The DUP will tread very carefully. They do t want to be tainted in NI and are concerned Brexit will destroy NI economy and bring a united Ireland in its wake. So it's not all bad news

Kentnurse I share your worries. The DUP are horrendous on women's rights (not to mention their homophobia). There are many Tories who believe in lowering the time limit for abortion and eroding choice who might jump at the opportunity to do so - including the current Health Secretary. It'd be very concerning. Hopefully a sizeable opposition will negate that threat but I'm still worried.

Then when they didn't like the outcome of the vote they suddenly decide to use their right to vote.

That's good isn't it?

Immigration debate is that way....farage is waiting for you

Meanwhile.....what a bloody great day

UKIP werent rising in certain areas for no reason. Ignore the reasons why is never going to help.

If we never get past Europe, well never get to have a serious conversation about austerity and disability.

Only the first bit of my post was for you, Perking, in response to yours to Increasingly's that there are worse countries in the world. There are. It's a fact.

It's not a question of having 'got it wrong' if we're in the position of looking for worse countries than ours. That was a really patronising and dismissive comment.

Shit, this is actually happening..

Then when they didn't like the outcome of the vote they suddenly decide to use their right to vote.

Surely the whole point of having a vote is to use it?

The DUP might have to tread very carefully themselves.

I doubt it. Independently they will never have the kind of influence they would in coalition and they wouldn't really have to compromise any of the values of their core supporters in the way lib Dems had to abandon tutition fees

The thing is, a party that can so easily form an allegiance with the bad guys, are surely by extension also the bad guys?! I really can never vote for a party that can get in bed with the DUP who want to abolish abortion, and are openly homophobic. Really so far away from where I want the country to be.

It's not a question of having 'got it wrong' if we're in the position of looking for worse countries than ours.

I'm not 'looking for worse countries' I was pointing out that there are far worse if people are looking to goggle at what's going on elsewhere. We are one of the good ones I think - able to express and discuss this in the main rationally. I can't see lots of countries where everyone is agreed, it's just we know less about what goes on and the opinions in other countries than our own. This EU issue is also very very complex.

UKIP were a one policy party. Have been decimated this time round. You know when you see food prices increasing your kids schools asking for whip rounds no beds in the NHS when immigration is falling in real terms it kind of focuses the mind on the real issues.

Also the young have spoken. it's time to listen up

Haven't the Tories been unofficially "in bed" with the DUP for years?

Immigration debate is that way....farage is waiting for you

Sadly I think that is where I will end up. Not where I want to be. I doubt I'm alone in this. Without Brexit I would be heading firmly to the centre ground.

Back to devisive politics.

It is hard to believe Brexiters have got the hump that there is going to be uncertainty ahead. I mean, really?

The DUP will not risk a united Ireland. They have to go back showing how they have won for NI. Take a gander at the issues in NI and the impact of brexit

Also I would take a guess that far more than 10 Tory MPs are anti abortion and homophobic. In context there are more pressing issues for NI. Pushing that bollix wouldn't help them at home

My MP, who has just been massively reelected, wants to reduce abortion to 12 weeks, and is openly homophobic. He's a conservative.

Apparently 56% of 18-34 year olds voted this time, up 12 points on 2015. And they voted Labour by a big margin, so it is definitely young people who made the difference. It also explains why the polls were out - all the pollsters apart from YouGov were weighting the polls on the assumption that young people wouldn't vote in high numbers.

Interesting to see the share of vote: Conservatives had 42.4% and Labour 40%. The first past the post system means that the final tally of seats isn't a reflection of voting patterns.

Yes, of course DUP and Tories have always been of an accord, but I think this parliament will throw light on the even more unsavoury aspect of the Tory government.

My apologies if this has been covered, I've not RTFT but labour still didn't win. It's all well and good to crow over the lack of majority by the Tories but they do still have the most seats.

I appreciate the passions involved on both sides - and the shocking tactics on both sides, and the upset to the political system but this is still the key foundation - Labour lost and even if they entered a coalition with SNP, Libdems, Plaid Cymru AND Green, they still don't have the number to beat the Conservatives.

So now the wrangling and negotiating begins and do you think this puts the UK in a strong position for the next 5 years?

I'm laughing at the naivity about the so-called 'hard Brexit' plans.

The whole point of talking tough - and 'hard'- was to tell the EU that they'd better not fuck with us over the terms of leaving. The actual negotiations would be rooted in reality.

No one ever goes into negotiations saying what their bottom line is . You start high and work downwards to a compromise.
You also have to be prepared to walk away even if it's just bluffing.

Has no one ever negotiated buying a car for example?

Anyone who voted Brexit put Britain in a weak position for the next fifty years.

I'm sorry that I'm not weeping over the fact that flip-flopping TMay might not be leading us now.

UKIP were a one policy party. Have been decimated this time round.

That's a really dangerous assumption. They aren't active atm because some were concerned about splitting the Conservative and some felt the job had been done the referendum had been won.

The campaign structure is still there and I have no doubt will pick right back up if needs.