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Diane Abbott replaced: Ill health?

198 replies

PizzaPower · 07/06/2017 09:36

So she's gone, is it really ill health, or do they think she is a massive liability and a vote looser?

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squoosh · 07/06/2017 13:06

I always picture the flowery posters thumbing furiously through their thesaurus thinking 'I'll show 'em.......once I find a suitably frilly word.

Sostenueto · 07/06/2017 13:08

Lol sqoosh ( oops showing my leftie useless education)Grin

Bambambini · 07/06/2017 13:09

Look at the kind of pic often used to depict DA compared to the men - i'm sure it was just accidental though.

Diane Abbott replaced: Ill health?
EleanorRigbysNeice · 07/06/2017 13:10

She ought to stand down. She is not up to the role, should Labour win and may be unwell on top of that.

IfNot · 07/06/2017 13:10

I don't actually think her comment about west Indian mothers was racist. It's about culture. She didn't say " white British mothers don't care about their kids".
To me, If a Korean mother said " Korean mothers are fierce about education" or a Jewish mother made a joke about Jewish mothers wanting their sons to be doctors, thats an assertion about their own culture. She has also said other things regarding the private school thing, along the lines of the fact that as a young black man in London, her son faces some particular challenges that white boys do not. She is probably right about that- NOT that I agree with what she did, but I can understand it.
Maybe she is ill, maybe she is incompetent, but I'm not sure she's racist.

IfNot · 07/06/2017 13:12

And yes can we stop the "she looks ill" bollix about TM. No fucker does that to male politicians.

makeourfuture · 07/06/2017 13:13

She is not up to the role

May? I think she's up to the role. Just has a terrible ideology. An ideology that has strangled the economy and put us in danger.

Pretty harsh on the sick, elderly, disabled and children too.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/06/2017 13:18

I wonder why we have to convince ourselves she's ill rather than just a liability?

WillowWeeping · 07/06/2017 13:27

Ifnot except yes, famously, they do

www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2009/sep/27/andrew-marr-gordon-brown-health

Mrsfrumble · 07/06/2017 13:35

I wonder why we have to convince ourselves she's ill rather than just a liability?

In my case, it's partly a desire to give her the benefit of the doubt (remembering the Mo Mowlem situation) and partly because her demeanour seems so drastically changed.

Type 2 diabetes can cause mental impairment if not kept under control.

Maudlinmaud · 07/06/2017 13:42

I rewatched some of her interviews. Some days I can't string a sentence together or retain information so she very well may be ill. But to the untrained eye she just looks really unprepared and hasn't answered a question straight. Not unusual for a politician, but there is something really off about DA. It makes for uncomfortable viewing when you consider she may be ill.

Halle71 · 07/06/2017 14:37

Bambambini
I have not seen one reference to her colour, sex or attractiveness. Except by you. And Lily Allen....

Am I right that you don't think she is attractive which is why you think she has been picked on? I would say the opposite - for a woman in her 60's I think she is beautifully turned out, flattering clothing, her hair is immaculate and her complexion glowing (and complete wrinkle free!).

I have, however, read a lot of criticism about her lack of knowledge on her own party's financial policies as well as national security issues. She has come across as a blithering idiot in recent weeks.

It is the people saying she can't be criticised because she is black and a woman who are the racist, misogynists. Surely she should be treated the same as a white male politician rather than given dispensation?

squoosh · 07/06/2017 15:14

'Surely she should be treated the same as a white male politician rather than given dispensation?'

Yeah, because male white politicians are always held to account...

Bambambini · 07/06/2017 15:23

Bambambini
I have not seen one reference to her colour, sex or attractiveness. Except by you. And Lily Allen....

Really? What did you make of that pic i posted? I've seen lots of blatent comments on line and in the way certain media sources choose to portray her and the photos etc they use. I'm not DA fan but have noticed it. I guess you haven't noticed how female MPs are often portrayed differently from males as well.

Charmageddon · 07/06/2017 15:29

Just seen a mention of Diane Abbott on Sky News - 'a friend of hers' had told them she knew nothing about 'standing down due to ill health' until it was announced it this morning.

Comrade Corbyn, the Man of Principle quite happy to throw a long standing friend & colleague under the bus to further his own ends.

Quelle Surprise.

SerfTerf · 07/06/2017 15:30

Surely bamb, they've chosen the particular pictures to make Corbyn look like a muscovite communist worker in his cap, McDonnell look grumpy, toothless and intransigent and Abbott look like she's shouting. It's a tryptich of socialist stereotypes from the Daily Mail.

I'm a bit disturbed by all this because I don't like to think that sexism or racism goes over my head, but you're the only person (so far) to specify what the slurs were (I had sort of hoped and assumed it was something from the twitter sphere I'd missed altogether) and I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing the Mail slurring the left. As ever.

SerfTerf · 07/06/2017 15:34

Quelle surprise indeed.

I hope she takes the opportunity of a suddenly quiet diary to sleep more and gets her bloods checked, though. The fact that not much is being spun into something by the spin doctors doesn't mean she's in optimal health. Blood sugar being out of line can cause real impairment short of "illness" and she doesn't seem her usual self.

GrimDamnFanjo · 07/06/2017 16:33

I really hope she is ok as she should not have been given such a tough brief. Corbyns problem is he has banished the labour talent in favour of his Trot pals.
As an aside, Diane was referred to as working class up thread. She really isn't, she attended the same school in the same class as Portillo, so acceptance into Cambridge was not exactly from a sink school in Hackney, hence her own son going Private.

Sostenueto · 07/06/2017 17:06

No doctor but don't think its blood sugars. Think its a delapitating illness that will get progressively worse. On the other hand could be thyroid.

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:09

Oh did Portillo go to a girls grammar school now

IloveBanff · 07/06/2017 17:14

Sostenueto I think you mean 'debilitating'.Grin

Sostenueto · 07/06/2017 17:16

Oops typo. Sorry.

MakeUpMyRoom · 07/06/2017 17:16

I suspect she's sobering up.

squoosh · 07/06/2017 17:19

If she does have a drink problem I don't think it's something to be glib about. Charles Kennedy used to receive a lot of cruel comments re. his drinking. What good did those comments do?

MakeUpMyRoom · 07/06/2017 17:32

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