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Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 06/06/2017 19:39

Pain, with respect to your link to the trumps taking money from kids charities, what I am finding amazing, is that it won't matter. Every day something comes up that makes you think, wow, that can't be beaten, and every day there's something new. I've not really followed politics heavily before, and certainly not American politics, but I'm sure it was never l ok me this. It's reality tv but with repercussions.

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 06/06/2017 19:42

Like this. Fat fingers

cozietoesie · 06/06/2017 20:04

I agree, Across. (About Comey's testimony.) You might find this piece interesting.

Comey testimony

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 20:22

Sleipnirthewonderhorse it is frightening. I know when he was inaugurated, lots of people stressed the importance of not normalising this but trump's tactic of creating bigger atrocities to change the narrative means it's impossible to focus on them all at once, and so almost by default, they go unchallenged and become "accepted", in the sense that there aren't any consequences for him. Hopefully the slow turning wheels of the judiciary and constitution catch up with some of the egregious acts and dispenses some justice. Keep persevering though, it's a long game.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 20:23

Damn, would have been an opportune moment to say keep persisting!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 20:35

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
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Uh oh. Trump: "Jared's actually become much more famous than me. I'm a little bit upset about that." (via @MSNBC)

mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/872174313595600896/video/1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 20:38

Tommy Christopher @tommyxtopher
This is deliberate, WH wants the "Sessions in trouble" narrative. Spicer won't say Trump has confidence in Sessions, the Comey kiss of death mobile.twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/872174138823241728/video/1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 20:41

There's have been reports that trump is unhappy why aessions recused himself, leading to the appointment of the special prosecutor. Is he planning on getting rid of sessions, appointing a new "untainted" AG who can then be involved in interfering with any trump-Russia investigation? I think in theory mueller is answerable to rosensteon, the deputy AG, and not sessions because sessions has reused himself but if there's a new AG, would mueller then resort to him?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 20:43

Multiple typos - it's completely garbled! Blush Let's try again:

There have been reports that trump is unhappy with sessions because he recused himself, leading to the appointment of the special prosecutor. Is he planning on getting rid of sessions, appointing a new "untainted" AG who can then be involved in interfering with any trump-Russia investigation?

I think in theory mueller is answerable to Rosenstein, the deputy AG, and not sessions because sessions has recused himself but if there's a new AG, would mueller then report to him?

MicrowaveSpy · 06/06/2017 20:43

Thanks for the new thread Lweji and also for the Colbert clip. He has a wonderful way with words Grin

BoreOfWhabylon · 06/06/2017 20:44

I think Agent Orange has completely lost touch with reality now. He is lashing out blindly in all directions like a cornered rat.

His tweets will be what finally brings him down, I am sure. He will go due to "ill health"

I am very much hoping no one confiscates his phone.

CaveMum · 06/06/2017 20:51

Some Trudeau love from thecBBC:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40173553

cozietoesie · 06/06/2017 20:55

I don't think he'll manage to appoint a new and 'untainted' AG. Anybody who replaces Sessions has to be not only happy about the position but cleaner than a clean squeaky thing - and he's not doing so well with a new FBI Head is he?

cozietoesie · 06/06/2017 20:57

Sorry. Plus they'd have to be 'amenable' also. Wink

lionheart · 06/06/2017 21:01

Yes to Comey adding to the cracks rather than bringing it crashing down. The connections and the corruption make for such a tangled web that it will involve lots of agencies and a water-tight case to get this done properly.

But I am optimistic that it will be done.Smile

GingerIvy · 06/06/2017 21:09

Pain uh oh. Kiss of death for Trump is someone becoming more famous/popular/more sought out by media.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 21:10

Oh I know it wouldn't be a credible path of deflection but this is the same trump that thought firing comey in the middle of an investigation would be a good idea!

GingerIvy · 06/06/2017 21:10

CNN Politics‏Verified account @CNNPolitics 43s43 seconds ago
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White House won't say if President Trump has confidence in Attorney General Sessions cnn.it/2r35VWD

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 21:13

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/06/reality-winner-espionage-act-leak-russian-hacking

Reality Winner faces 10-year sentence in first Espionage Act charge under Trump

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/06/2017 21:13

ACLU National @ACLU
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It would be deeply problematic if Winner’s prosecution marks the start of a Trump administration crackdown on leaks.

Orlantina · 06/06/2017 21:13

Kellyanne Conway‏Verified account @KellyannePolls 38m38 minutes ago
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Kellyanne Conway
Hey @JakeSherman, can you find where I said this?Kellyanne Conway added,

Jake ShermanVerified account @JakeSherman
last 2 days: @KellyannePolls said we should pay attn to what @realDonaldTrump does not what he tweets. Spicer said tweets = official stmnts

Bless. People have only gone and shown her links of herself saying that people should pay attention to what he does and not what he tweets.

cozietoesie · 06/06/2017 21:24

Interesting, though. Doesn't 45 'follow' her?

lionheart · 06/06/2017 21:45

He also blocks:

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter-idUSKBN18X2LR

lionheart · 06/06/2017 21:48

... and probably should not.

AcrossthePond55 · 06/06/2017 22:00

I agree with that article cozie. Comey is nothing if not discreet and he does not strike me as the type to blow the lid off something sensitive intel-wise in public as revenge for being fired. He may have some damaging information, but he's not going to share it with us.

Comey will refute Trump's assertions that he told him he wasn't under investigation and possibly correct a few other, erm, 'misstatements' by Trump. Trump will tweet throughout attacking Comey's credibility and/or memory with a possible 'liar liar pants on fire' or 'sour grapes because I fired him' tweet in there somewhere. Fox & Co and the Trumpettes will blart about 'Trump says he's a liar, therefore he's a liar' or words to that effect. Trump will twist statements on MSM news reports shouting 'Fake News' and 'Lame Media'. We'll all digest what Comey said and hope beyond hope that it adds some big bricks to the Great Wall of Impeachability.

In other words, business as usual in Trump's America.