Is justice Comey for Trump?

[Lweji]

The previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2943626-Join-the-Schiffettes-for-covfefe-in-the-SCIF-as-they-await-Comeys-return-from-behind-the-curtains-Trump-cont?msgid=69544518

[GingerIvy]

whoops - I think this takes you to the thread.
Dan Gillmor‏Verified account @dangillmor 3m3 minutes ago
A scary thread from someone with real credentials: When we face a genuine emergency, Trump is likely to turn it into a catastrophe. twitter.com/JeremyKonyndyk/status/832616259598610432 …

[GingerIvy]

Foreign Policy‏Verified account @ForeignPolicy 57m57 minutes ago
If Nikki Haley pulls out from the UN Human Rights Council altogether, the abusers of the world win, writes @KenRoth atfp.co/2rQffRM

[lionheart]

Nobody wants to grab the sticky stick:

www.yahoo.com/news/four-top-law-firms-turned-requests-represent-trump-122423972.html

[GingerIvy]

igorvolsky‏Verified account @igorvolsky 16h16 hours ago
Trump is now pretending to sign major legislation (since he still hasn't been able to pass any) <a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/us/politics/trump-privatize-air-traffic-control.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=t.co/xyVorku713?amp=1" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/us/politics/trump-privatize-air-traffic-control.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=t.co/xyVorku713?amp=1 … pic.twitter.com/R2DwZUiNid

[AndHoldTheBun]

Thanks for the new thread

[lionheart]

I didn't know that about McKinnon and those reactions to American Psycho, MO.

It is a vile book.

I do not know where the lines are or can be drawn with regard to censorship.

1. Some articulations can already be prosecuted if they are deemed to 'incite racial hatred', I believe.
   

1. Certain social media platforms have a woeful record of moving quickly, or at all, to take down illicit materials (child abuse; beheadings; suicides). This is something that could change.
   

1. Perhaps there is a risk that censorship simply leads to more covert forms of sharing and this makes it more difficult to track the people who return repeatedly to the more radical propaganda (which is one goal of additional legislation).
   

Have to think some more.

[Gumpendorf]

Radio 4's Law in Action covered Special Prosecutors this afternoon - their history and how the Trump thing may play out. It's worth a listen

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sn96x

[lionheart]

Ginger, that performance did make me laugh.

[catgirl1976]

I have privatised this place mark. It's going to be faster, safer and cheaper than my other placemarks.

[lionheart]

catgirl

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/06/mark-warner-more-state-election-systems-targeted-by-russians-nsa-senate-intelligence/102549928/

[reawakeningambition]

Greetings.

[catgirl1976]

I hope this week see's the downfall of Trump and the election of JC (eternal optimist here)

[Sleipnirthewonderhorse]

Where will be the best place to watch Thursday's proceedings? Does America do live coverage of this sort of thing or will I be relying on Trumps stream of consciousness Twitter feed? I'm assuming that the British media will have more local news on their minds that day.

[Sleipnirthewonderhorse]

Catgirl, for a confused minute I thought you were hoping for the election of Jesus Christ. Welcome to Gilead!

[Orlantina]

Sean's up soon.

I don't think people have an issue with Trump tweeting as such. It's more with what he actually tweets.

I hope someone asks about London again

[catgirl1976]

Ooops sorry Sleipin - not the second coming I'm hoping for - just the end of the Tory government

[illegitimateMortificadospawn]

Roger Stone: I Hooked Up Nigel Farage With Donald Trump

I need brain bleach, stat!

[Sleipnirthewonderhorse]

I think Tories are a shoe in round here. I saw a website a few weeks ago which told you who's most likely to beat the Tories in your constituency for undecided voters, but I can't find it now.
I am astonished that the conservatives are still sucking up to Trump, even after his comments about the London mayor. I don't think they re doing themselves any favours.

[OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon]

Apols of already posted

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/amp/

[OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon]

If!

[OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon]

Manu Raju @mkraju
NEWS: Flynn submits more than 600 pages of records and documents to Senate Intel - mostly business related, per source

[AcrossthePond55]

Yes, Lweji, but you'd then have a Class Action (or specific group) suing the Agency or Govt. They still wouldn't sue an individual employee. There have been any number of these regarding US Superfund and Toxic Waste sites. There have also been quite a few against the VA for poor care or benefits denials. IIRC 'Agent Orange' benefits were the result of a Class Action suit agains the VA.

It's not to say that suits against the US are 100% refused. The Govt still has to have 'some' valid reason to refuse to allow a case to proceed. It's just that the number of frivolous or just plain 'crazy' lawsuits are really unbelievable. People file because the Govt has 'put radios in their heads', because they are 'sovereign citizens' and lots of other bollocks.

Personally I'd love to see a 'People of the US vs Donald Trump' Class Action lawsuit. But unfortunately you can't sue someone for being a pretentious, pompous, ignorant, egomaniacal narcissist. (Yet)


On other fronts; I don't think that Comey's testimony is going to be truly 'game changing'. I think it will be a very important brick (or two) in the wall being built, but not the one that completes it. TBH, I don't think it will reveal any critical new information on Russia, it will just refute a lot of Trump's assertions about what he did or didn't say or demand. I think if there is any critical information on Russia or any other dirty dealings, that will be done in the closed session later tomorrow afternoon. I don't think the Committee wants any true 'bombshells' set off in public. They're going to want those set off quietly, where they can contain damage and/or choose what should remain out of the public realm.

It starts at 7am where I live. I'll be watching. DH is going camping which is all to the good as he gets so frustrated and shouts at the TV. At least I'll be able to hear what's being said all the time. lol.

AND, I think the arrest of Reality Winner for leaking info is more about a whistleblower wanting to get information 'out there' so the people knew about it than it is about 'espionage'. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that she had been trying to call attention to the information up her 'chain of command' and was shushed because it was damaging to 'certain people' so she just thought 'fuck it' and passed it on. Not saying that's right. But potential whistleblowers are often punished or shushed (in violation of whistleblower statutes) when what they know is damaging to 'certain people'.

[TrumpsUndevelopedSpaceBtwnEars]

Can't keep up, ignore me while I blend into the bushes or curtains or whatever & catch up

[cozietoesie]

Among the bushes, please, Trumps!

[Natsku]

Just a little placemark