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To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

773 replies

chunkychicken1 · 06/06/2017 07:07

Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

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user1487175389 · 06/06/2017 13:29

I don't understand this. There's not a single Tory more competent than she is. Why would you sacrifice all your principles because she's useless? She's just one individual amongst many - for every Diane Abbott, Labour has a Keir Starmer (who's much more likely to end up with an important cabinet post than she is). You don't see Tories jumping ship because Boris is a dick head. Most likely you were never going to vote Labour in the first place.
I'm not a Labour voter BTW.

GerdaLovesLili · 06/06/2017 13:34

Thanks Dan, I did wonder.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 06/06/2017 13:38

I also want my kids to live in a country not ruled by the EU

Oh right, mummymeister. Hope Brexit brings you all the many freedoms you have been missing. Hmm

makeourfuture · 06/06/2017 13:39

Dan that is a terrible misrepresentation. We would be investing in a very profitable, high demand enterprise. If they were incapable of making money, no business would be interested.

Tissunnyupnorth · 06/06/2017 13:40

I have been wavering, thinking a lot about my vote. However, the thought of her being Home Secretary on Friday morning has made my mind up.

Dandandandandandandan · 06/06/2017 13:48

Still waiting for your explanation as to how the labour maths works, make.

whistles

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 13:58

makeourfuture come on fess up. you are from Labour or Momentum HQ aren't you. all this use of "we" for Labour and "they" for the tories.

why don't you actually answer some of the points put by people about the cost of this manifesto and who is going to pay for it instead of trotting out trite one liners - "labour all good/ tories all bad" shit. be honest.

we aren't going to be able to renationalise the railways. we just will never have the money it will drag through the courts wasting more money for years and years and years.

Dandandandandandandan · 06/06/2017 14:00

Mummy - ah but the Tories have an HQ.

Ah but the Tories use the trains!

Ah but by having an HQ and using the trains to get there, the Tories are oppressing the masses with their clean laundry!

WalkingOnLeg0 · 06/06/2017 14:00

Whats going to happen when JC has borrowed hundreds of billions to buy all the utilities? He is also planning on increasing unions powers and reducing ticket prices. So how exactly will they all stay profitable?

Unions will demand more staff and higher wages (costs go up)
The public will demand lower prices (profits go down)
To compensate investment will decrease (will services be degraded?)
If debt interest is increased, what happens when no one will buy our debt? Lets go back to when Gordon Brown ended Boom and Bust.

Oh wait that worked out so well. Abbott People have short memories.

citroenpresse · 06/06/2017 14:04

mummy was it you that said JC has 'confirmed' his front bench? I can only find references to Corbyn REFUSING to confirm positions.

Hillingdon · 06/06/2017 14:06

I do wonder if JC has actually been quite clever here. Very foolish to make the offers he has but isn't he bribing people to vote for him.

Being a pensioner in a few years I should vote for Labour, having two children going to university in the next couple of years, shedloads of money for just about anything you can think of...

The thing is the very rich will move out. It will be left to the rest of us to fund/pay for this. It is widely known that when you increase taxes i.e increased stamp duty on £2 m plus houses the actual tax receipts go down, people just don't move and the gov end up with less than they had before.

However it does placate some people who think if you can afford a £2 m plus house you can afford anything, ditto private education.

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 14:07

theres not a single Tory more competent than Dianne

Fuck me I don't think most of them are much good but that's bloody hilarious.

Cheers Dianne

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 14:09

I think make is the dear leader actually come on fez up! And for gods sake lock up Dianne again she's on the loose. She will be wearing your hat soon. Wink

PinguPaws · 06/06/2017 14:12

Chomsky and Hawkins are independent critical thinkers. They don't need to be economists.
Economists get it so wrong again and again. Name me one economist who predicted the crash of the Euro the bail out of Greece and the financial austerity that Britain would face, and how we can deal with it. They don't exist.

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 14:12

It appears to me that Dianne Abbot is ill. What the cause of her illness is I do not know. But what I do know is making personal attacks on someone who has appeared ill for the last few months is not a very nice thing to do and achieves nothing. Also when the Tories decide to cost their manifesto will be the day pigs will fly.

ImperialBlether · 06/06/2017 14:12

The more I watch DA's interviews on TV, the more I think she's seriously ill. We've always had inadequate MPs, MPs who are not great public speakers and MPs who are drunk, but she actually seems really ill.

If she was in a meeting at your workplace, talking like that, don't you think you'd assume she was ill rather than incompetent, particularly if this was a new development?

noblegiraffe · 06/06/2017 14:14

The day the Tories cost their policies is the day we find out they think 7p is a reasonable price for a breakfast.

user1487175389 · 06/06/2017 14:15

No its not, wait, you just have no comeback.

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 14:16

if she is actually ill then what a massive dereliction of duty of care by the Labour party to keep her in a ministerial position and put her before the media. if she is ill, send her on sick leave.

citroen - my point was that jezza and Dianne go way way back. long term friendship and relationship.

you either believe he is this lovely man of principle who sticks by his chums in which case abbott stays where she is.

or he is a two faced politician who would sell her to the dogs to keep himself in power and will move her out as soon as look at her.

which is it?

makeourfuture · 06/06/2017 14:16

Let's review.

Here's where we are:

The Tories pledged to contain debt - it has exploded.
The Tories have pledged to keep us safe - they haven't.
The Tories say they support the NHS - bury the Naylor Report.
The Tories say they want to help the disabled - they cut their funding.
The Tories say they support education - they have cut it to the bone.
The Tories say they believe in law and order - bankers ignore at their leisure.
The Tories say they are the ones to depend on during Brexit - NO PLAN.
The Tories say they will tidy up benefits with Universal Credit - failed computer system, years and millions overdue.
The Tories say they believe in economic growth - they strangle it with ideological austerity.

Failure.

C8H10N4O2 · 06/06/2017 14:17

mumymeister C8H10N4O2 - your post is incredibly offensive

Well you could actually read what I wrote rather than reinterpret it according to your own preferences. You have significantly misrepresented and jumped to your own conclusions.

Fascinated that you think you know which party I belong to (if any).

If you don't believe the tirade of abuse she was routinely subjected to when she started out do a bit of research - some of its even in Hansard (the coded language versions and not always from her political opponents). Just look at what women MPs have to deal with now on twitter and add in the racism and that it was in her face every day when the NF were riding high You can rewrite history if you want to but that won't make it true.

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 14:20

makeourfuture - answer the f ing questions please.!!!

you aren't giving a lecture to the party faithful. what actual planet are you on. or is this the post lunch sugar rush or just another bit of paper from HQ telling you what you have to post next.

what job do you do irl. answer the question.

no -one posts like this - let's review. what is this an episode of the office?

give me a minute, i'll find you a grip. you clearly need one.

MotherhoodFail · 06/06/2017 14:21

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mummymeister · 06/06/2017 14:22

C8H10N4O2 oh you mean like Jewish MP's - Labour Jewish MP's - being subjected to anti Semitism and the party standing back and doing nothing?

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 14:22

it really matters not if she's seriously ill, drunk or drugged up, it matters that by Friday she could be home sec.

That's what matters to the country and that's who she's supposed to be working for.

It's not nasty to question her ability to be up to the job ffs. She's not running for carnival queen.

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