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AIBU to object to neighbour marching into our garden? PARKING THREAD ALERT!

112 replies

CookieTramp · 03/06/2017 08:39

We moved into a new house last October, in a little tucked-away square, and our nearest neighbour is very close to our house, and adjacent. She seemed a finicky old soul but harmless. I started putting her bins out and putting them back for her, because she is close to 80. Brought her a cupcake when I was baking, that kind of thing.

However, when we had our driveway done, everything changed. I gave her a copy of the plans upfront, as the land gets cut a strange way, and it was to be paved where it was all grassed before - hers merging with ours. I told her the dates and to let us know if her land registry plans were different to ours.

She wasn't happy about it being done, although her plans agreed with ours. 'it was always fine as it was', etc. She also asked us to pay for gravel on her little section, which I just dodged as it seemed utterly unreasonable. I just politely repeated, each time she had a moan, that we wanted to do it, and it would mean one fewer car on the road outside. We had space for one car but by paving it it can take two, so visitors can park on our drive instead of on the road. But when the work started, there were problems throughout. Her daughter always parks directly in front of our drive when she picks her mum up, but one time when I parked on the road because I couldn't park on our drive while it was being done, there were ructions. Her daughter said she could not get onto her mum's driveway, but... she never does park on the driveway. She just pulls up outside our house. So yes, my car blocked that, on this particular day, but they never actually do that, if you see what I mean. Her daughter was really unpleasant, but I let it go. Then one time her daughter was on her way, and she knocked and asked our workmen to move their truck, so that her daughter could get on the driveway (which, as I said, she never does). He told her politely that when she arrived, he would move it, and what car should he look out for. She slammed the door that time. Also, when I spoke to her to try and smooth it out, she said she was annoyed the work was taking longer than she thought it would. That seemed very unreasonable too, as it is our works. I just said yes, we weren't happy it had gone on a bit too. Since that conversation, she completely stopped saying hello to us or our boys.

Then two days ago we got some garden work done. I had put a note through to let her know which days the high hedge between our houses (our hedge) was being trimmed, and if any foliage dropped into her garden, to let us know and we would come and remove it. My mum was here while it was done, as we were away for the week - and she knocked on the old lady's door to reiterate that if anything fell in her garden, she/we would remove it immediately. The old lady was quite rude and said no, her son would do it.

Later, she knocked and said her cleaner was on the way, and could our workmen move their truck (it was parked across our driveway, not on our driveway, being pretty big). Her cleaner would not be able to get her car onto her driveway. My mum, having had enough of the trouble last time and not wanting to hop to her tune straightaway, said 'Yes, I will ask them when they come down from their ladders.' The old lady said, no, could she ask them now. My mum said no. The old lady said she would ask them herself, and my mum said no, they were our workmen and she would ask them. Then my mum went into the house. The old lady opened our side gate, and went into our garden, and asked them to move their car! After this, she had a gardener arrive, and made a barbed comment to my mum about him removing stuff that had fallen into her garden - despite me having offered in our note and my mum having offered that very morning. I am also worried she will bill us for it, but that is a side issue.

Let me stress, there is no shortage of parking around the square outside our house, only a metre or two away. Her daughter blocks us in all the time, when picking her mum up, and I have never made an issue of it. When workmen are here, it is clearly a temporary thing, and we have never said they would not move their trucks, just not straightaway while the men are working.

DH says I should let it go, but she has been so unpleasant all the way through, and it really bugs me that she walked right into our garden like that.

AIBU? What would you do?

OP posts:
fiorentina · 03/06/2017 08:43

Ignore her. To be blunt she won't probably be living there forever and just ignore her cantankerous ways. It's annoying but let it go for your own sanity.

bigmack · 03/06/2017 08:44

Don't let the workmen block the drive.

emilybrontescorset · 03/06/2017 08:44

I would grit your teeth and ignore her.
Soon the work will be completed and then you will have a nice new drive to park on.

RandomDent · 03/06/2017 08:44

How long is left to do the driveway? It's not going to be an issue then. I'd let it go, moaners always moan. You are causing some disruption and they like drama.

DartmoorDoughnut · 03/06/2017 08:46

I'd ignore it tbh, they'll soon give up if they don't get a response. Or you could maybe say "look I want to be a good neighbour and I want us to all get along BUT this is OUR land and you're being obstructive. We won't be moving our cars from outside of our house for your daughter she can park on your drive."

Ginmakesitallok · 03/06/2017 08:47

I'd let it go.

FloatyCat · 03/06/2017 08:49

You or your workmen shouldn't be blocking her drive, but you both sound like you are now being awkward with each other.
Just ignore her for the time being and don't give her anymore cause to complain by parking across her drive.

Whosthemummynow · 03/06/2017 08:50

Why can't your workmen/gardeners use the parking "only a metre or 2 away"

Ariawyn · 03/06/2017 08:52

Need a diagram!!

I'd keep asking the daughter to move her car, blocking your driveway is just not on

And ignore everything else

Tabymoomoo · 03/06/2017 08:53

We had a neighbour like this really difficult whenever we blocked her drive for a few minutes (despite us not making any fuss if she did the same) or had building work BUT unfortunately she and your neighbour have a point. If you block her drive for any reason, whether she usually uses it or not, you are in the wrong.
Any normal, reasonable neighbour would give you a break but to keep the peace I would never block her drive again and if she or any visitor ever blocks yours kick up a big fuss in return!

UnicornSparkles1 · 03/06/2017 09:02

Ignore her and stop bending over backwards to be civil. She clearly doesn't appreciate it. Like fiorentina says, she's not going to be your neighbour for long. Sit back and let nature do its thing.

Oh, and get a lock for your gate.

MaryPoppinsPenguins · 03/06/2017 09:06

I'm a bit confused... the builders were blocking your drive or her drive?

A diagram of this square is needed!

harderandharder2breathe · 03/06/2017 09:14

Your builders shouldn't be blocking her drive, regardless of if she uses it. People can get funny if they're blocked in as it takes away your options. I don't like people parking in my parking space (comes with my flat, not just somewhere i like to park) even though I don't have a car Blush It's never happened for more than a few hours at a time so I don't get worked up or write notes or anything... but I don't like it even though it doesn't affect me in the slightest

If you want to be awkward, then every time her daughter blocks you in, go and ask her to move. But tbh I would just ignore. Refuse to engage. Obviously refuse to pay if she tries to bill you for her gardener since you/your mum offered to remove anything that fell. Don't pander to her but also don't block her in or do anything to put you in the wrong. And ignore.

AlexaAmbidextra · 03/06/2017 09:17

Close to 80 and people are saying she won't be there for long? She could be there for another 15 years or more!

BalloonSlayer · 03/06/2017 09:19

So when is she "marching into your garden" as your thread title states?

Chloe84 · 03/06/2017 09:20

Are the workmen blocking her drive or yours? If the latter, is she just clutching straws for an argument? Can she actually access her drive?

I hope you've stopped taking her bin in and out.

TheFairyCaravan · 03/06/2017 09:29

If you don't want her annoying you stop annoying her. Tell your workmen to park 2m away.

GlitteryFluff · 03/06/2017 09:31

Diagram is definitely needed!

FluffyWhiteTowels · 03/06/2017 09:38

I agree it sounds tedious for you. Some, and I stress some not all, elderly people get very anxious about change in any way and things looking different.

It's even more of a shame that her daughter appears to be joining in with heightening the tensions. You'd have thought she'd want to smooth things as you were being helpful before i.e. Bins and would have, I am sure, kept a neighbourly eye on her for safety especially in icy weather.

But hopefully tensions will calm down when the work has finished.

Siwdmae · 03/06/2017 09:38

Don't block her drive, is very annoying. Stop being so bloody nice, she clearly doesn't want you to be friends.

FittonTower · 03/06/2017 09:40

If there's loads of parking then the easiest solution seems to be that your various builders and stuff stop blocking her drive, or am I missing something?

pictish · 03/06/2017 09:43

I need a diagram as well. She sounds like a cantankerous pain in the arse. Maybe she doesn't like your driveway (personally I think it's always a shame to see greenery paved over...and if there's ample parking in the street like you say then I'd think it a travesty to do it) but that's tough. It's your house and your call. She is showing herself to be a very arrogant person. Avoid from now on, ignore where appropriate.

SofiaAmes · 03/06/2017 09:44

I thought diagrams were mandatory for parking threads.

Pouncival · 03/06/2017 09:45

let her do her own bins - she obviously doesn't appreciate small kindnesses - I like dartmoordoughnuts response

rightwhine · 03/06/2017 09:46

Well she's not going to have her bin taking in and out, service for any longer then, is she?
You should really also ask her daughter to move every time she blocks you in but tbh it would be better to just rise above it all, be civil and polite but not raise hostilities any more than they are.