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AIBU to object to neighbour marching into our garden? PARKING THREAD ALERT!

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CookieTramp · 03/06/2017 08:39

We moved into a new house last October, in a little tucked-away square, and our nearest neighbour is very close to our house, and adjacent. She seemed a finicky old soul but harmless. I started putting her bins out and putting them back for her, because she is close to 80. Brought her a cupcake when I was baking, that kind of thing.

However, when we had our driveway done, everything changed. I gave her a copy of the plans upfront, as the land gets cut a strange way, and it was to be paved where it was all grassed before - hers merging with ours. I told her the dates and to let us know if her land registry plans were different to ours.

She wasn't happy about it being done, although her plans agreed with ours. 'it was always fine as it was', etc. She also asked us to pay for gravel on her little section, which I just dodged as it seemed utterly unreasonable. I just politely repeated, each time she had a moan, that we wanted to do it, and it would mean one fewer car on the road outside. We had space for one car but by paving it it can take two, so visitors can park on our drive instead of on the road. But when the work started, there were problems throughout. Her daughter always parks directly in front of our drive when she picks her mum up, but one time when I parked on the road because I couldn't park on our drive while it was being done, there were ructions. Her daughter said she could not get onto her mum's driveway, but... she never does park on the driveway. She just pulls up outside our house. So yes, my car blocked that, on this particular day, but they never actually do that, if you see what I mean. Her daughter was really unpleasant, but I let it go. Then one time her daughter was on her way, and she knocked and asked our workmen to move their truck, so that her daughter could get on the driveway (which, as I said, she never does). He told her politely that when she arrived, he would move it, and what car should he look out for. She slammed the door that time. Also, when I spoke to her to try and smooth it out, she said she was annoyed the work was taking longer than she thought it would. That seemed very unreasonable too, as it is our works. I just said yes, we weren't happy it had gone on a bit too. Since that conversation, she completely stopped saying hello to us or our boys.

Then two days ago we got some garden work done. I had put a note through to let her know which days the high hedge between our houses (our hedge) was being trimmed, and if any foliage dropped into her garden, to let us know and we would come and remove it. My mum was here while it was done, as we were away for the week - and she knocked on the old lady's door to reiterate that if anything fell in her garden, she/we would remove it immediately. The old lady was quite rude and said no, her son would do it.

Later, she knocked and said her cleaner was on the way, and could our workmen move their truck (it was parked across our driveway, not on our driveway, being pretty big). Her cleaner would not be able to get her car onto her driveway. My mum, having had enough of the trouble last time and not wanting to hop to her tune straightaway, said 'Yes, I will ask them when they come down from their ladders.' The old lady said, no, could she ask them now. My mum said no. The old lady said she would ask them herself, and my mum said no, they were our workmen and she would ask them. Then my mum went into the house. The old lady opened our side gate, and went into our garden, and asked them to move their car! After this, she had a gardener arrive, and made a barbed comment to my mum about him removing stuff that had fallen into her garden - despite me having offered in our note and my mum having offered that very morning. I am also worried she will bill us for it, but that is a side issue.

Let me stress, there is no shortage of parking around the square outside our house, only a metre or two away. Her daughter blocks us in all the time, when picking her mum up, and I have never made an issue of it. When workmen are here, it is clearly a temporary thing, and we have never said they would not move their trucks, just not straightaway while the men are working.

DH says I should let it go, but she has been so unpleasant all the way through, and it really bugs me that she walked right into our garden like that.

AIBU? What would you do?

OP posts:
HotelEuphoria · 03/06/2017 11:30

Sounds to me that she wasn;t happy about you making your drive bigger, older people can be a bit odd about change, I know my dad is and is obsessive about next doors garden and how they don't cut their hedges or grass etc ...BUT, it all seems a bit tit for tat now.

Be the bigger person don't have your builders block her drive, don't let her daughter block yours and let her put her own bins out.

CookieTramp · 03/06/2017 11:31

"everything else is padding".. well, yes. it would have been a bit meaningless in isolation. I have said upfront that that is the bit that is the issue, by entitling the thread that, and by saying so directly.

OP posts:
TheMaddHugger · 03/06/2017 11:32

Sweetie OP Thanks for the extra info. I would be happy to live next to you.

((((((((((Hugs)))))))

keeplooking · 03/06/2017 11:36

she is close to 80.

she's not going to be your neighbour for long. Sit back and let nature do its thing.

Nice.

Lostwithinthehills · 03/06/2017 11:41

Am I being unreasonable to object to my 80 year old neighbour entering my garden to politely ask that my workman move his massive truck because it was obstructing access to her drive? My neighbour initially politely asked my mum to ask the workman to the truck but my mum refused.

I think that sums up your AIBU and my answer to that question is yes.

Greenkit · 03/06/2017 11:52

I get you OP

You have been kind and considerate to the neighbour, ignored her daughter blocking YOUR drive.

It seems she got the hump because you wanted up date and add a parking space to your property and wouldn't pay for gravel for hers.

She has then deliberately, go the huff about your builders, NOT blocking her drive just to be a pail.

Perhaps she is jealous, I would ignore from now on

FrancisCrawford · 03/06/2017 11:57

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Ceto · 03/06/2017 12:03

Picking up an elderly person (5-10 mins) is NOT anything like having contractors blocking access, however slightly, for HOURS at a time

But they aren't blocking access. Their presence on OP's land simply makes access slightly more inconvenient.

apostropheuse · 03/06/2017 12:10

I think it's possible that your neighbour just doesn't like being left with that small patch of grass. When her lawn and your lawn were joined together it would give the illusion of her having a bigger garden. She's been left with a pretty ugly little triangle of grass. You're legally entitled to do that of course.

FrancisCrawford · 03/06/2017 12:14

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Waltermittythesequel · 03/06/2017 12:18

Your mother was rude, petty, and wrong.

You don't own the bloody workmen!

Neighbour had someone coming and she wanted access to her own drive.

Your mum should have kept her beak out. She has escalated it.

Ceto · 03/06/2017 12:22

OP, you've admitted that it's only for 5-10 minutes. You know exactly whose car it is and if you are so desperate to access your drive in that time, you know where the driver is to ask her to move the car

But the point is that OP hasn't objected to this, despite the fact that those 5-10 minute obstructions must add up to a hell of a lot of time and there must be occasions when it is a bloody nuisance. Yet despite OP's tolerance of this, the neighbour feels entitled to kick up a fuss just because occasionally it's mildly inconvenient to get on to her drive.

Ceto · 03/06/2017 12:23

Waltermitty, access to the neighbour's drive wasn't obstructed. It appears that neighbour just wanted to make a fuss for the sake of it.

FrancisCrawford · 03/06/2017 12:28

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bigmack · 03/06/2017 12:30

'makes it more difficult to get onto her driveway. They have to drive round the truck out front and edge in'

That is an obstruction.

notaflyingmonkey · 03/06/2017 12:39

It sounds like all the changes and disruption is causing her stress, so I think you should cut her some slack.

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 03/06/2017 12:43

She's an old lady ffs.Your Mum was rude to her and should have asked the workmen there and then. No drive blocking should happen in either side. You seem rather petty. HTH.

lazyarse123 · 03/06/2017 13:05

I think you have had quite a slating on here op and not deserving of it. Your neighbour and her daughter are cheeky buggers. There is no way I would pay to gravel someone else's garden.. I repeatedly have to ask a neighbours friend to move as he parks right over my drive when dropping him off, he usually says "I 'm going in a minute", well no I want to leave now not when you've done gassing. So sick of entitled folk. I would just be civil from now on and get a lock for the gate and your mum was right to say to wait as the person needing access was not even there yet

Schroedingerscatagain · 03/06/2017 13:54

I would be quite happy for you to be my neighbour

Essentially as I read it your neighbours daughter doesn't even use her mums drive, she is rude and parks across yours something you've never complained about but she's pissed because she can't with the workmen there

Your workmen are parking across your now bigger drive, perfectly reasonably as it's your drive, only the entitled daughter next door likes to park there and is hacked off she can't even though she shouldn't as it's bloody rude especially when her mum has a drive she should park on Hmm

Your neighbours daughter is ramping it up probably because her mum is moaning as she is set in her ways and you have quite legally altered your property

Your own mum is, much like the daughter of next door getting fed up of the behaviour from next door upsetting you and therefore responding in kind as she's your mum and wants to protect you

If she lived in my area she might have room to moan as many properties are having work done regularly due to their age but that's just the way life goes

The daughter needs to stop being an entitled twat and you need to reassure your mum that you're a big girl and can deal with your own neighbours without her being a bit passive aggressive as it has sadly ramped it up

diddl · 03/06/2017 15:32

"She wasn't happy about it being done, although her plans agreed with ours."

What does that mean?

Also, why not just do your own drive?

Redsippycup · 03/06/2017 15:54

Diddl the plans on neighbour's and OP's deeds agreed on where the boundary between the properties is.

OP has just done her own drive.

diddl · 03/06/2017 16:07

Oh yes, that makes senseBlush.

I was wondering why she seemed so involved & opinionated.

If her drive was done for parking, can't see why she would object/care when Op does the same.

witsender · 03/06/2017 16:12

Your mum was rude. I can see why a big truck parked across there would make access very difficult, there was no reason for your mum to be so difficult.

Chloe84 · 03/06/2017 16:30

OP, you've had an unnecessarily hard time on this thread.

You sound like a lovely neighbour. Flowers

we didn't even draw the driveway line according to the land registry plans. It looked very brutal to her, so we brought it forward by a foot or so, ceding our land.

And all you've had is petty behaviour in return. Is it too late take back your land?

liviadrusilla · 03/06/2017 16:50

Gosh, I'm not sure why you're being criticised here - you seem to have been a great neighbour. I would be polite from now on but wouldn't be as helpful as before with nice gestures such as the cupcakes and bins.

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