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AIBU to object to neighbour marching into our garden? PARKING THREAD ALERT!

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CookieTramp · 03/06/2017 08:39

We moved into a new house last October, in a little tucked-away square, and our nearest neighbour is very close to our house, and adjacent. She seemed a finicky old soul but harmless. I started putting her bins out and putting them back for her, because she is close to 80. Brought her a cupcake when I was baking, that kind of thing.

However, when we had our driveway done, everything changed. I gave her a copy of the plans upfront, as the land gets cut a strange way, and it was to be paved where it was all grassed before - hers merging with ours. I told her the dates and to let us know if her land registry plans were different to ours.

She wasn't happy about it being done, although her plans agreed with ours. 'it was always fine as it was', etc. She also asked us to pay for gravel on her little section, which I just dodged as it seemed utterly unreasonable. I just politely repeated, each time she had a moan, that we wanted to do it, and it would mean one fewer car on the road outside. We had space for one car but by paving it it can take two, so visitors can park on our drive instead of on the road. But when the work started, there were problems throughout. Her daughter always parks directly in front of our drive when she picks her mum up, but one time when I parked on the road because I couldn't park on our drive while it was being done, there were ructions. Her daughter said she could not get onto her mum's driveway, but... she never does park on the driveway. She just pulls up outside our house. So yes, my car blocked that, on this particular day, but they never actually do that, if you see what I mean. Her daughter was really unpleasant, but I let it go. Then one time her daughter was on her way, and she knocked and asked our workmen to move their truck, so that her daughter could get on the driveway (which, as I said, she never does). He told her politely that when she arrived, he would move it, and what car should he look out for. She slammed the door that time. Also, when I spoke to her to try and smooth it out, she said she was annoyed the work was taking longer than she thought it would. That seemed very unreasonable too, as it is our works. I just said yes, we weren't happy it had gone on a bit too. Since that conversation, she completely stopped saying hello to us or our boys.

Then two days ago we got some garden work done. I had put a note through to let her know which days the high hedge between our houses (our hedge) was being trimmed, and if any foliage dropped into her garden, to let us know and we would come and remove it. My mum was here while it was done, as we were away for the week - and she knocked on the old lady's door to reiterate that if anything fell in her garden, she/we would remove it immediately. The old lady was quite rude and said no, her son would do it.

Later, she knocked and said her cleaner was on the way, and could our workmen move their truck (it was parked across our driveway, not on our driveway, being pretty big). Her cleaner would not be able to get her car onto her driveway. My mum, having had enough of the trouble last time and not wanting to hop to her tune straightaway, said 'Yes, I will ask them when they come down from their ladders.' The old lady said, no, could she ask them now. My mum said no. The old lady said she would ask them herself, and my mum said no, they were our workmen and she would ask them. Then my mum went into the house. The old lady opened our side gate, and went into our garden, and asked them to move their car! After this, she had a gardener arrive, and made a barbed comment to my mum about him removing stuff that had fallen into her garden - despite me having offered in our note and my mum having offered that very morning. I am also worried she will bill us for it, but that is a side issue.

Let me stress, there is no shortage of parking around the square outside our house, only a metre or two away. Her daughter blocks us in all the time, when picking her mum up, and I have never made an issue of it. When workmen are here, it is clearly a temporary thing, and we have never said they would not move their trucks, just not straightaway while the men are working.

DH says I should let it go, but she has been so unpleasant all the way through, and it really bugs me that she walked right into our garden like that.

AIBU? What would you do?

OP posts:
piefacedClique · 03/06/2017 18:21

She sounds like a grumpy old trout OP. You've been nice, she's been obtuse! The positive is you have an extra cupcake when you bake and only one set in bins. I agree, you've had some shit undeservingly from other posters x

bigmack · 03/06/2017 18:43

Piefacedclique you are ageist.

piefacedClique · 03/06/2017 19:35

🤣

Squishedstrawberry4 · 03/06/2017 20:21

With any future workmen, you can park much further down the road so the workmem can park on the drive

mangiacats · 15/08/2022 20:55

Well, lots of comments. Emmerdale and Corry must be boring. Seems like, by making your drive wider a space on the road is lost. If you ask the council they might be able to paint a H outside your two spaces so "no one" can park and block you in. This might also backfire if you have visitors. Parking Wardens are quick to book someone parking on a H. Apologies if someone has already mentioned this.

valentinoandme · 15/08/2022 20:57

I'm hoping it's all been sorted since it happened 5 years ago!!

mangiacats · 15/08/2022 20:57

5 years on. Is she still alive or did Covid get her.

SillyBub · 15/08/2022 21:05

mangiacats · 15/08/2022 20:55

Well, lots of comments. Emmerdale and Corry must be boring. Seems like, by making your drive wider a space on the road is lost. If you ask the council they might be able to paint a H outside your two spaces so "no one" can park and block you in. This might also backfire if you have visitors. Parking Wardens are quick to book someone parking on a H. Apologies if someone has already mentioned this.

Are you quite alright @mangiacats ?

TakesTheCake · 29/08/2022 22:41

@mangiacats She’s alive and well. After all the stressful interactions, even though I didn’t think I did anything wrong, I took her a bunch of flowers to smooth things over, as I understand things are a bigger deal sometimes for older people. She wouldn’t accept it. In a way it was a good thing as now I don’t have to have polite conversations with her anymore, which I never enjoyed anyway. We ignore each other and life is quiet. All good! My husband still clears her path of snow or ice in winter, because old lady, but other than that no nice things done for her. No bin-moving. No cupcakes. No smiles.

bringbackveronicamars · 30/08/2022 11:10

CookieTramp · 03/06/2017 11:18

Just as additional information, we didn't even draw the driveway line according to the land registry plans. It looked very brutal to her, so we brought it forward by a foot or so, ceding our land. I think we have tried very hard to be neighbourly, and I have to say I feel quite crushed by people saying we have been bad neighbours :-(. The issue I have issue with isn't the blocking in by her daughter (it was added as extra info), but only her opening our gate and going into our garden. I have let everything else go - the barbed comments, the aggressive daughter, the blocking in.

I'd now stick with the land registry lines.

YABU when you let your workmen block her drive/make it very difficult for her to use should she want to. It doesn't matter if no one has parked there in 100 years; you don't get to block it without her permission. Ever.

YWBU when you didn't tell them to move their truck immediately. I don't blame her for telling them herself when you literally refused to do so.

However, YWNBU to tell her daughter going forward that she may no longer block your drive for her convenience, even if it's only for 10 minutes, after the way she's carried on at you doing reasonable work on your own property.

I would cede property to them, tbh. Devalues your own property for people who are being ridiculous and will continue being ridiculous going forward, about your own reasonable changes to your own property ... changes that will take the pressure off of parking on the street and perhaps cut down on cars blocking either of your drives going forward. Save for the rude daughter who needs to be spoken to as I said above.

Meraas · 30/08/2022 11:19

You have made the classic mistake of being too nice in the face of rudeness, so they now feel entitled to treat you badly.

Stop taking her bins out.
Stop giving her cup cakes or anything else
Park your car outside your own house (in such a way that doesn't make it difficult for neighbour) to stop her dd from blocking your drive.

In short, stop being a mug.

Meraas · 30/08/2022 11:20

CookieTramp · 03/06/2017 11:18

Just as additional information, we didn't even draw the driveway line according to the land registry plans. It looked very brutal to her, so we brought it forward by a foot or so, ceding our land. I think we have tried very hard to be neighbourly, and I have to say I feel quite crushed by people saying we have been bad neighbours :-(. The issue I have issue with isn't the blocking in by her daughter (it was added as extra info), but only her opening our gate and going into our garden. I have let everything else go - the barbed comments, the aggressive daughter, the blocking in.

Get that foot of land back asap. Is it now part of her garden?

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