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To agree Btiches on Tour isn't acceptable

130 replies

wasonthelist · 01/06/2017 16:56

www.nottinghampost.com/bride-to-be-on-hen-party-kicked-off-flight-says-her-holiday-was-ruined/story-30365116-detail/story.html

How is "btiches" a way anyone would want to refer to themselves?

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ForalltheSaints · 01/06/2017 18:54

Some words are usually just taken as insults and bitch is one of them. Agree with the airline.

grafittiartist · 01/06/2017 19:02

I'm so surprised at anyone thinking that it's ok- of course the airline were right to remove them. I don't want to read that word as an adult, never mind explain it to kids. Depressing.

kali110 · 01/06/2017 19:18

was i'm goth/alternative so the tshirts i wear do have have bands/band lyrics including swear words.
My bitch tshirt is from my teens, only thing that still fits me, slightly.

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 01/06/2017 19:27

re "Bitches Who Do stitches"^

CheersMedea,

"FFS. I hate this kind of thing. It's not ironic and not reclaiming the slur.
Imagine if a group of black labourers set up a JCB business and called it N--s With Diggers. Ha ha. So fucking ironically funny. Not."

Yup. Context is all.
A lot of the self-referring N word, and self-referring well-known anti-gay terms etc. publicly used within music/ comedy etc., too, which, as somebody who's neither, makes me really uneasy, because I've way too frequently heard racist/ homophobic etc. idiots then use it to justify using those terms too.

Just my opinion, others obviously feel differently, but calling out an eejit using it as discriminatory abuse is made harder if they retort with "well, (X celebrity) always uses it in public, so it must be ok".

I have a mental health condition, am absolutely fine being occasionally (only ever affectionately) called "nutjob" or "crazywoman" by very close friends/ family.
Certainly by those suffering similar themselves.

My choice. Our right. As it is for any 'members' of a group with complicated history of prejudice.
Sure as Hell wouldn't sit right with me, though, to feel I'd made it even a tinier bit more acceptable for a twat unfamiliar with mental illness to insult someone else.

BTW, I wonder what treatment stag party lads wearing "Bastards On Tour" t-shirts would've received...

VelvetSpoon · 01/06/2017 19:29

I think the airline have been pretty pathetic over this.

I am astonished anyone would be offended by it. I don't consider bitch to be a swear word. And anyone who is offended...don't stand in your average primary school playground because you'll hear far worse language from 7 and 8 year olds!

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 01/06/2017 19:30

^ I also wonder if there's a predictable group sad face pic in The Fail Online yet??

Only a matter of time... Wink

saltandvinegarcrisps1 · 01/06/2017 19:32

Morris. I saw hen party once with the sashes you buy from tacky shops. Bride had "Ho" and her mum had "Mum of ho" then presumably chief bridesmaid had "chief Ho" (I don't think it was meant in a Santa type way). WTAF?

GriefLeavesItsMark · 01/06/2017 19:41

No sad face photos, but the link leads you to a really excellent crossed arms photo. Something about a roof that might fall on a child's head

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 01/06/2017 20:07

saltandvinegar,

Oh God, that reminds me: there was a really downright flipping bizarre odd Louisiana family Xmas card that became a national media controversy a couple of years ago.

Dad of family sitting in armchair, Xmas tree in background, his wife and 2 daughters (late teens/ early 20s) all wearing t-shirts with "Ho" ...whilst his had the mind-blowingly inappropriate "Chillin' with my Ho's". Ew Shock

(and to compound that crime, I'm not sure about that apostrophe, either!).

Photo 2 on card was a reverse shot: the t-shirt backs wished everyone "Merry Christmas, Bitches!" (but was tastefully decorated with holly sprigs, so that's ok then...).

It apparently had been one of the daughter's bright ideas "to stand out from the norm".
Undeniably did that, then Confused

FuzzyPillow · 01/06/2017 20:44

This is the last part of the story: A spokeswoman for Jet2.com said: "They were told repeatedly to cover up including by the police which they repeatedly ignored so Jet 2 were left with no other choice but to remove them from the aircraft."

AH!! That makes more sense. So what they were actually thrown off for was disobeying a police officer! That's fair enough then. I wouldn't want anyone on a flight who was happy to disobey the police!

Iris65 · 01/06/2017 20:46

I saw a hen party in the street where the members were all wearing personalised T shirts. An older woman had 'Bride's mum, likes it up the bum' on the back of hers. Shock

Talith · 01/06/2017 21:20

If they could have covered up but chose not to then they were in the wrong. Bitch is a rude word. Not the worst but it can cause offence. Flights often have tighter rules than other areas of life. You suck it up or choose another form of transport. Sounds like a very large group. Could have appeared very intimidating. Sympathy with airline here.

kali110 · 01/06/2017 23:22

ThaliaLuxurySpa
I understand your stance.
i have no problem with my friends calling me nuts or psycho, i call myself nuts quite frequently, but i wouldn't want a stranger insulting me with it.
I have no problem with the tahirts, if that's what they wish to wear.
I wouldn't, but then i doubt they'd wear some of my stuff Grin

Naemates · 01/06/2017 23:51

Piffpaffpoff oh dearie me...

wasonthelist · 02/06/2017 08:54

I am astonished anyone would be offended by it. I don't consider bitch to be a swear word. And anyone who is offended...don't stand in your average primary school playground because you'll hear far worse language from 7 and 8 year olds!
Not the point - it's about context.

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BellyDancer124 · 02/06/2017 09:04

It's so tacky!

Roussette · 02/06/2017 14:18

I am astonished anyone wouldn't be offended by it!

Hoppinggreen · 02/06/2017 14:25

I don't like it, I think it's horrible and tacky but the point for me is that they wouldnt comply with a reasonable request from cabin crew/ground staff. I think that if you won't do what the airline staff ask (within reason) then you shouldn't be allowed on the plane.

BTG3385 · 02/06/2017 15:31

Wouldn't bother me. What does is hens/stags getting hammered before they get on, annoying everyone else and still being served by the airline. I tend to avoid flying to popular stag/hen places on Thursdays/Fridays

Bobbydeniro69 · 02/06/2017 16:45

It's a new breed of ignorant person - The entitled Hen Do attendee.

" I've been stupid enough to pay £500 to go drinking for three days, so therefore I can wear want I want and act however I want, regardless of the negative impact of my selfish, anti social behaviour is on others".

Their natural habitat is York or any seaside town in Britain at the weekend, and literally any European destination a budget airline flies to.

ScarlettFreestone · 02/06/2017 18:32

The thing is this notion of "I can wear what I want" has never been true.

There are all sorts of circumstances where your choice of clothing is curtailed to a certain extent.

An airplane is only one of them.

CotswoldStrife · 02/06/2017 18:48

I also agree with the airline, I think they were given plenty of choices and time to remove the t-shirts and just cba.

Neither do I think you hear worse in primary school playgrounds - or certainly not in my child's school perhaps as they take a strong line against bad language.

ScarlettFreestone · 02/06/2017 19:16

Costwold you wouldn't hear "bitches" from 8 year olds in my DC's school playground either.

Ariawyn · 05/06/2017 18:51

and it gets worse!

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-richard-branson-comes-aid-10557001

so behave like entitled fucking twats and get a free holiday to Vegas!

"The millionaire tycoon said he was shocked to hear the hens had been ejected off their plane to Majorca after their T-shirts were deemed to be "too offensive.""

Piffpaffpoff · 05/06/2017 19:02

We saw a hen party at the weekend in a very busy 'outdoors activity' car park in a national park (think mountain biking, walking, running etc) surrounded by families and the bride was carrying an
blow up male doll by its erect willy. Funny in the pub yes, not appropriate on a Saturday lunchtime in amongst young families. It's all about context and situation imo.

And I suspect Jet2 might have words with Branson about why fellow airlines should be supporting action against unco-operative passengers, not rewarding them.

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