To agree Btiches on Tour isn't acceptable

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How is "btiches" a way anyone would want to refer to themselves?

What amazed me was the fact that the women were aged between 35 and 60.

What bloody possessed them? I'm at the older end of the spectrum and I wouldn't dream of wearing a Tshirt with that on and to be honest on an early morning flight I don't particularly want to see it either. The bride has 3 kids, really think it's potty wearing something like that, I would've thought she'd have more sense.
Obviously not.

Bride is a mental health social worker.

^ And I agree with PPs: appropriate context is all.

^Well, personally, I wouldn't...but my (very activist/ feminist) New York friend is in a hipster sewing group called "Bitches Who Do Stitches
They claim it's ironic and reclaiming the slur. Hmm. Each to their own, I suppose.

FFS. I hate this kind of thing. It's not ironic and not reclaiming the slur.

Imagine if a group of black labourers set up a JCB business and called it N--s With Diggers. Ha ha. So fucking ironically funny. Not.

I was on a flight a few weeks ago with one large hen party and two different stag parties. All were dressed up in 'tour' t-shirts or fancy dress, most were drinking in the security queues. The rowdy behaviour started while the plane was on the runway (one hen produced a speaker and started blasting out club tunes) and went on for the entire flight, with the hens and stags goading each other on - probably because their 'tour t-shirts' made them immediately visible to each other. It was absolutely grim for everyone else, particularly parents with little kids.

When we finally landed, there was a delay in disembarking which turned out to be because the pilot had called the police to deal with the worst behaved stags. There was a muted cheer from the rest of the plane when they were removed. I sympathised with the cabin crew as we left and they rolled their eyes and said, welcome to our summer season. And this wasn't even a known party destination, just a normal European capital city.

It's not a great thing to wear and not handled very well.
Why didn't they just send them to the toilet to turn their T-shirts inside out so noone could read the words...end of problem.
I am not that offended by the words, they are pretty tame and just make the women look a bit rough. I was more taken aback by a father bringing his kid into the Emergency Dept last week wearing a hat with the F-word on it. Highly unsuitable with all the kids around yet noone said a thing or asked him to remove it!

Did they refuse to turn their T shirts inside out when asked? If so then it was right to have them removed from the plane. If they were not given the chance then it's a bit unfair.

I have always loved bitch enimals - foxes etc and think it is typical sexism that a word like c unt or b itch is regarded as a dreadfuyl thing whereas the vagina and female dogs and foxes are actually pretty wonderful.

I think it was unreasonable of the airline. However, I'm someone who has very grudgingly come to accept the sad fact that these days, there seems to be a decline in what used to be common social decency. I have seen people gyrating in public with children present, all sorts of foul language being used for no reason at all, and "personal fun and enjoyment" being placed far above consideration for others. So really, nothing surprises me anymore.

I wouldn't be offended.I'd think they were a bunch of idiots though.

Really? I think there's more important issues to worry about than that OP

Having recently taken a flight to Palma and one to Amsterdam... I'm astonished the airline said anything! The stags on both flights had much worse than that.

If they weren't being really rowdy like they say they weren't then i think the airline over reacted. I was on a flight to Majorca once and a large group of young men got on, the noise and bad language was shocking but nothing was said to them. Totally ruined the flight.

I find mulsim head gear offensive because it is a publice statement of the inferiority and subservience of women to men but I tolerate it. I think we should allow quite wearing of T shirts with slogans.

We had that trouble at a university over the T shirts with "Jesus and Mo" on and cartoons. It was very bad that initially the T shirts were banned. We need to allow free speech.

Removing a group of passengers from a flight is a major disruption. There is no way the airline would do it unless it was an absolute last resort.

It doesn't matter whether the bride thinks it was a "mild swear word" it contravened the airline's rules.

I just don't believe they weren't warned. Not for one single second.

We need to allow free speech How far would you go with that JanetBrown - golliwogs, black face, nazi symbols? Slave to shopping? Suck on this with arrow pointing down t shirts?

If the T shirt had a load of dogs on the t shirt with the words On Tour below then that might be acceptable.

Otherwise it's just appalling. The airline was right and as adult women, they should know better.

To be honest, if we're splitting hairs about the varying degrees of female subjugation, I'd take a hijab any day over a t-shirt with "bitch" on.

I find mulsim head gear offensive because it is a publice statement of the inferiority and subservience of women to men but I tolerate it.

Well you obviously don't tolerate it.

I cannot understand that you don't think bitch is not subservient but a person wearing hear gear is.

FFS. I hate this kind of thing. It's not ironic and not reclaiming the slur.

I agree. I loathe the term "bitch" when used about a woman or girl and think it's incredibly misogynistic. I don't challenge women or girls who use it about themselves (even though I dislike it) but cannot abide anyone using it as a term of abuse. This kind of thing to me perpetuates that even though the women were referring to themselves with these t-shirts, which it's difficult to argue they're not entitled to do - but I agree it's definitely not ironic or reclaiming the misogynist slur when women do.

Kind of a cross post with CaoNiMartacus and I agree with you too!

I'm on Jet2's side. All they had to do was put their jackets on or turn the t-shirts inside out. They wouldn't have been taken off the plane lightly. It serves them right.

Really? I think there's more important issues to worry about than that OP

Well, yes, obviously. You could write that comment on pretty much every thread on here. OP never said, or even implied, that it was a big worry in her life. Are we only allowed to start threads about major concerns?