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to end pregnancy because of husband, or to carry on despite him?

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NeutralUserName · 31/05/2017 11:58

I don't have anyone in real life that I feel I can discuss this with, because it is so fucking embarrassing, but I thought that perhaps posting on here would give me some other angles... sorry it's a bit long, at least there are paragraphs ...

I'm pregnant (very early, about five weeks). I didn't want this to happen. We were being careful. Obviously not careful enough.

I have a baby who'll be one in September. I have a history of infertility, IVF treatment and miscarriage before he came along. It was absolutely awful, and I know exactly how lucky I am to have my beautiful boy. I used to hope for two children but I was / am reconciled to having just the one and I genuinely feel very lucky to have him. I'm considering ending this new pregnancy because of my husband.

This new pregnancy was not planned. My husband is horrified at the thought of another baby. He found the early days with our son very difficult and suffered badly with depression due to sleeplessness (although he did not get up much to help) and the change in our relationship (basically, he was very upset that I did not feel very sexy and was not really interested in sex). He was not very emotionally or practically supportive of me in those first weeks/months and I did not have the energy or emotional capacity to take care of him as well as looking after our tiny baby, struggling with breastfeeding, and recovering from c-section. He refused to seek help for his low mood and we have argued about this many times.

He's been pretty clear since our son was born that he doesn't want another. I've felt sad about this but more or less come to terms with it because I feel so lucky with the one child. I've never agreed out loud that we will never have any more because I wasn't 100%.

I don't have any reason to think that he'd find another baby any easier than the first one. He does love our son now, although I think it is still mixed with resentment for how his life has changed. I would say they have a good relationship. He's good at playing with him and takes an interest and pride in his development.

Sex is a big issue in our relationship. He doesn't really understand or accept that I want it less frequently than he does. He thinks there is something wrong with me. He finds it difficult and very hurtful and this manifests itself in some epic grumpiness / huffs / sulks / loud sighing (these are all not quite the right words but will have to do). He thinks that fixing our sex life has to be our main focus and that having another baby will totally screw things up. I think that I am being unfairly compared with some rose-tinted image of what life was like about ten years ago.

I am seriously considering termination and have made an appointment at the clinic (for discussion). If I do this then it is better done quickly and as soon as possible. I feel utterly hypocritical and ridiculous for considering a termination of this pregnancy given my history of struggling and absolute desperation to have a baby. If I do it, it will pretty much be because of his behaviour the first time round. In a nutshell, I believe that having another baby so soon may well cause us to break up and then my little boy will miss out on a proper relationship with his dad. And I'll be bringing up two kids alone. Even if we don't split, it will probably sour things further and even in the best of circumstances, having two under two is one a hell of a challenge. Plus I will be one of those women who returns from mat leave already pregnant - I can front this out and it won't be a problem with public sector HR but still ... I take my career very seriously and it will be difficult with two tinies.

But - it would be a baby and a sibling for my son, and I know I'd love it like crazy. If he was a different kind of person I wouldn't be thinking about a termination; I'd still have some mixed feelings as it's so soon but I'd be happy and I’d make it work. It's a serious thing to do, ending a pregnancy because of someone else. He says I'll blame him for this forever and he has a point.

So - if you're still with me - which is least unreasonable? Continuing the pregnancy even though it'll be a massive strain on a less than brilliant relationship and likely have an impact on my existing child? Or ending the pregnancy because of my husband's feelings? I don't know what the hell to do now. What else should I be considering?

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PoppyJ1 · 31/05/2017 16:58

A lot of your post sounds like you are taking responsibility for that fact you are pregnant and that its unplanned and you're worried about how this will negatively affect your husband. It is as much his responsibility as yours, especially if he is hassling you for sex when you don't want it.

The thought of a woman terminating a pregnancy or maintaining it because of a man's feelings bothers me a lot. It is totally up to you; you are the one who must go through this.

I think your husband is behaving very badly. I hope he comes to his senses and changes, but sadly this may not happen.

What a horrid position to be in.

You do also sound quite strong and astute, so I think you will make the right decision. But it has to be one that is right for YOU.

In sisterhood xxx

PurpleDaisies · 31/05/2017 17:00

If you want the baby, keep the baby. It's totally your choice.

If you split, what support would you have around you? Will you qualify for maternity pay etc?

blue2014 · 31/05/2017 17:11

I also had fertility problems and ivf to get DS. DH and I haven't had sex in 16 months (we both want to just can't seem to manage it!) neither of us has pressured the other. We joke about it instead.

Being a parent is hard work. Really hard work. But It's no reason to become a huffy moaning arse.

Honestly, I thought I wanted 2 children - Turns out I don't. If I got pregnant now (previous IVF taken into consideration) I would consider a termination but because i don't want another child (and currently neither does my husband) Not because my husband is a whiny child.

What do you want?

Your career will get back on track, I know 4 people who have come back from maternity pregnant. One of whom did so 3 consecutive times and was promoted to manager on her return (and was bloody good too)

Look in your heart - what do you want?

Diam0nd7 · 31/05/2017 17:26

OP - It sounds like your H doesn't want another baby purely on the grounds that this will interfere with his sex life. Also he will not get as much attention from you as he would like. You really can't get an abortion because your H can't cope with you being less sexually available to him.
Think about the future if your DS ever asks why he is an only child? Every year you might think about how old you other child would have been. You will never forgive your H. He needs to man up and realise he is a father, frankly. If he has depression, he owes it to his family to get to the GP.

Vroomster · 31/05/2017 17:55

Keep the baby, ditch your DH. He sounds incredibly selfish, all me me me I don't get to have as much sex now wah. He needs to grow the fuck up.

user1490817986 · 31/05/2017 18:58

Most men are selfish pigs, unfortunately.

CiliatedEpithelium · 31/05/2017 19:06

Your husband sounds like he considers you a chattel or a sex toy rather than a wife. I would keep the wain and leave the pillock.

BrightonMum36 · 31/05/2017 19:18

Whatever you decide can you please let us know?!

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 31/05/2017 19:19

Another one saying don't terminate unless YOU want to.

It sounds like your marriage is in injury time and that you need to sit your H down and give him an ultimatum - that he either starts pulling his weight and seeks help for his depression, or you want a divorce.

The lack of sex is most likely down to the imbalance in your relationship - the tiredness wouldn't be so much of an issue if you felt that you were in an equal partnership. Has he considered that it's difficult to be sexually attracted to someone who whines, sulks, doesn't contribute and refuses to take any pro-active steps to improve life?

Either way the baby should be non-negotiable. If you don't want a termination then don't have one - and if he has an issue with that and felt so strongly about it, then he should have had a vasectomy before he started pestering you for sex.

imjessie · 31/05/2017 19:21

Have the baby and bin him, he sounds like a childish twat!!

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 31/05/2017 19:22

Oh BTW if you want the baby then you'll find a way to make it work - we always do with things that we want!

Don't worry about work. I know three people who have gone back from mat leave already pregnant - it's very common.

Better to be a single Mum with two children to look after, than unhappily married with a child, the eternal regret of a termination you didn't want and a husband that you resent because he's lazy and selfish. I suspect that if you have an abortion you will blame him - and not be able to help it - and it will end up corroding your relationship anyway.

PeaFaceMcgee · 31/05/2017 19:38

Ditch the emotionally abusive, unsupportive arsehole. You don't have to stay together for your son, you know.

Some Dads really do step up with their children when the marriage ends.

Guiltypleasures001 · 31/05/2017 19:42

If you want the baby lovely, then you keep it, ditch the unsavoury bastard you married, I think you would be glad you did.

picklemepopcorn · 31/05/2017 19:47

I'd struggle to forgive him. Could you?

Whatthefoxgoingon · 31/05/2017 19:49

You should definitely keep the baby if that's what you want. Your husband's attitude is very worrying. In future this is the type of man who will justify having an affair by saying you didn't give him enough sex. You run the risk of a very poor quality marriage if you stay with him. So sorry you're having to go through this Flowers

MsMarple · 31/05/2017 20:15

100 times over, keep the baby - it sounds like that's what you want deep down.

Also, baby number 1 is a shock to the system, but you don't get that utter-change-of-everything-what-am-I-even-doing-here feeling with number 2. Or at least I didn't.

And I know life without siblings can be perfectly lovely, and you aren't guaranteed that they will get along...etc etc, but my sons play brilliantly together, they always look out for each other, and without wishing to be morbid (!) I feel like they will be a team long after we are dead and gone. If I were you, I'd prioritise the chance to give my son a sibling relationship.

beanzmeanzheinz · 31/05/2017 21:01

Keep the baby and get rid of the man child!

That is extreme.... but.... in my experience these things have a way of working themselves out. My dh was huffy etc about the lack of sex in the early days but he has matured a bit, and since our dc's have gotten a bit older (youngest is now 3), sex is beginning to return to normal.
They are only small for a very short space of time. It's a short term sacrifice for a very worth while long term gain. Your dh needs to see this for himself, however. Good luck op!
And fwiw I think you should have the baby.. no question. You will figure it out. And if it breaks your marriage then maybe it wouldn't have lasted anyway x

NeutralUserName · 31/05/2017 22:04

Thanks again everyone. I've got a bit of time now to come back to this. I'm amazed at the number of replies so thank you all very much. Thanks also for the broadly pro-choice attitude, it's appreciated, the last thing I need is a lecture on how abortion is always morally terrible.

As some people have pointed out, no I haven't painted a very good picture of him. He's not a totally lazy bastard who does nothing practical at all, even when our son was tiny he wasn't that bad and he's got better since. It's not true that he doesn't help in any way - he does. However, sulking man-child is very apt. Obviously not all the time - nothing is that simple is it.

So many LTBs. I thought I'd get a few, I wasn't expecting that many. Could I manage by myself? Financially, yes. I have a decent job, the mortgage is manageable, and I'm sure he'd pay child support. Practically - yes I could manage as a single parent with one. I don't know if I could manage with two. Lots of people do but I'd worry about spreading myself so thinly. I do have my own parents an hour away and they are brilliant and have been so positive and happy about my son when he was little and I really needed that when wasn't getting much positivity from my husband. But they are both 70 and I can't rely on them forever. Soon enough they might be relying on me. A couple of people suggested I could meet someone new and perhaps have a child with them - hmm. I'm not in that headspace at all and even if I did, due to age I'd have to move recklessly fast to have a baby with a new partner. Nope.

People suggested relationship counselling for the sex issue. I have asked him to try this with me many times, he refuses. It is an excellent idea but it won't happen.

Someone asked me how long I'd known. I started to seriously wonder about it on Friday, tested Sunday, told him yesterday. So not long for either of us to get our heads around it. I probably sound pretty cold about a lot of this, it's like it's a really crap soap storyline and it's just ridiculous and I still can't quite relate it to my own life.

There have been some very good practical ideas about how we could try to make things easier second time around. Thank you.

Someone said it sounds as if I already love the baby. I'm not sure I do. It genuinely is a bunch of cells right now even if it has snuggled into my womb. It doesn't have a heartbeat right now. I can't see it as a 'baby', it's a potential baby, it's a pregnancy. I know that sounds cold - I am pretty detatched I agree. But if by some chance the ultrasound showed it was a month further on than I thought (this is an idea that has wormed its way into my head for a couple of very flimsy reasons) I think I would feel differently.

One post that stood out massively was TheCraicDealer. You have real insight there. Are you inside my head, woman?!

I'm not upset by HelterSkelter's suggestion that I might miscarry. I think it's very possible given age and history. However, it's not really relevant because I need to make a decision based on the chance that I won't. Leaving it up to chance is not a sensible thing to do.

Oh man, so many good points you've all made. I don't yet know what to do, it's not a snap decision, it will take a while. I'm going to try and talk to him again now instead of bashing my keyboard. It would be nice if I felt that he was concerned about me - I haven't seen much evidence of that since I told him.

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GreenPetal94 · 31/05/2017 22:17

It's up to you, but I'd keep the baby. After the first year or so, two so close together is really lovely and often less hard work as they play together. My sons were and still are as teens a right pair of two. I don't think you'll find it easy to look back on a termination and not regret it given your history of infertility.

Re partner, I wouldn't say to leave him. Just be definite with him. And see how it pans out. You might want to do some hard thinking though, but I wouldn't rush into it. It could be that once the second baby is a bit older he actually copes much better. Most couples do resume sex / get baby-sitters etc at that stage. We got fortnightly babysitters on purpose so we could enjoy our marriage - it makes a big difference.

Strawberrybubblebath · 31/05/2017 22:31

OP I think you are panicking a bit. Can you talk to a pregnancy advisory service?
For what it's worth I think in your situation having the babies close together would be brilliant. You are still in baby/nappy mode and it will work out nicely having them together. I think your husband might find it harder if you waited until things were getting easier with the baby going to school ect then started again with another baby having all the nappies/sleepless nights all over again.
If they are close together they can entertain each other, have things like swimming lessons/Cubs/ballet etc together. It's easier in the long run. People with tens/triplets etc manage and so can you.

FuckyDuck · 31/05/2017 22:38

Keep the baby
Dump the husband

You can do this!

PeaFaceMcgee · 31/05/2017 23:20

It doesn't have a heartbeat right now

Cardiac activity starts in week 5, visible on scan week 6. Sorry - just being pedantic. Am totally pro-choice. Worrying that he's showing you no concern Flowers

LilyMcClellan · 31/05/2017 23:45

In families that work, I believe that each parent is committed to achieving a balance where the priorities of each partner and their child/children are all equal.

In your family, your husband seem to consistently feel that his priorities to receive the greatest weight, and those of you and your child receive much less weight.

To counterbalance, I think you need to focus completely on what is going to be best for yourself first, and what is going to be best for your child/children second, and make your decisions based on that.

Don't worry about what your husband wants. He appears to be the sort who will always look after himself first. Whatever you choose isn't likely to change this.

LilyMcClellan · 31/05/2017 23:46

*ought to receive the greatest weight.

Coastalcommand · 31/05/2017 23:52

I'd keep the baby and if that meant the end of the relationship then so be it.