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to end pregnancy because of husband, or to carry on despite him?

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NeutralUserName · 31/05/2017 11:58

I don't have anyone in real life that I feel I can discuss this with, because it is so fucking embarrassing, but I thought that perhaps posting on here would give me some other angles... sorry it's a bit long, at least there are paragraphs ...

I'm pregnant (very early, about five weeks). I didn't want this to happen. We were being careful. Obviously not careful enough.

I have a baby who'll be one in September. I have a history of infertility, IVF treatment and miscarriage before he came along. It was absolutely awful, and I know exactly how lucky I am to have my beautiful boy. I used to hope for two children but I was / am reconciled to having just the one and I genuinely feel very lucky to have him. I'm considering ending this new pregnancy because of my husband.

This new pregnancy was not planned. My husband is horrified at the thought of another baby. He found the early days with our son very difficult and suffered badly with depression due to sleeplessness (although he did not get up much to help) and the change in our relationship (basically, he was very upset that I did not feel very sexy and was not really interested in sex). He was not very emotionally or practically supportive of me in those first weeks/months and I did not have the energy or emotional capacity to take care of him as well as looking after our tiny baby, struggling with breastfeeding, and recovering from c-section. He refused to seek help for his low mood and we have argued about this many times.

He's been pretty clear since our son was born that he doesn't want another. I've felt sad about this but more or less come to terms with it because I feel so lucky with the one child. I've never agreed out loud that we will never have any more because I wasn't 100%.

I don't have any reason to think that he'd find another baby any easier than the first one. He does love our son now, although I think it is still mixed with resentment for how his life has changed. I would say they have a good relationship. He's good at playing with him and takes an interest and pride in his development.

Sex is a big issue in our relationship. He doesn't really understand or accept that I want it less frequently than he does. He thinks there is something wrong with me. He finds it difficult and very hurtful and this manifests itself in some epic grumpiness / huffs / sulks / loud sighing (these are all not quite the right words but will have to do). He thinks that fixing our sex life has to be our main focus and that having another baby will totally screw things up. I think that I am being unfairly compared with some rose-tinted image of what life was like about ten years ago.

I am seriously considering termination and have made an appointment at the clinic (for discussion). If I do this then it is better done quickly and as soon as possible. I feel utterly hypocritical and ridiculous for considering a termination of this pregnancy given my history of struggling and absolute desperation to have a baby. If I do it, it will pretty much be because of his behaviour the first time round. In a nutshell, I believe that having another baby so soon may well cause us to break up and then my little boy will miss out on a proper relationship with his dad. And I'll be bringing up two kids alone. Even if we don't split, it will probably sour things further and even in the best of circumstances, having two under two is one a hell of a challenge. Plus I will be one of those women who returns from mat leave already pregnant - I can front this out and it won't be a problem with public sector HR but still ... I take my career very seriously and it will be difficult with two tinies.

But - it would be a baby and a sibling for my son, and I know I'd love it like crazy. If he was a different kind of person I wouldn't be thinking about a termination; I'd still have some mixed feelings as it's so soon but I'd be happy and I’d make it work. It's a serious thing to do, ending a pregnancy because of someone else. He says I'll blame him for this forever and he has a point.

So - if you're still with me - which is least unreasonable? Continuing the pregnancy even though it'll be a massive strain on a less than brilliant relationship and likely have an impact on my existing child? Or ending the pregnancy because of my husband's feelings? I don't know what the hell to do now. What else should I be considering?

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wowbutter · 31/05/2017 12:29

Having a termination because your husband doesn't think he can cope with any baby is a valid option, but his not coping due to lack of sex is fucking ridiculous.
If I was you I would keep the baby and lay down exactly what needs to happen. He's being a right wank badger.

MyBonnieLiesOverTheOcean · 31/05/2017 12:29

You say that you are considering terminating because of your husband.

You should only terminate if it is what YOU want to do.

As others have said, your relationship may not survive this. It doesn't sound like he will step up if you have another baby. And if you want a 2nd child but have a termination then the resentment will be the death of the relationship anyway.

Keep the baby & try relationship counselling. You may end up as a single mother of 2 but it would probably be easier than dealing with 1 and a manchild.

Oh and if he really didn't want another baby then he should have had the snip.

Finola1step · 31/05/2017 12:29

I agree with other posters - your marriage is likely to be doomed either way. So take him out of the equation. Then decide, for you and only you.

PaintingByNumbers · 31/05/2017 12:29

as everyone else says, make this decision based in being a single parent, as this relationship is not going to last longer term (with only one child it might limp on a bit longer)
so what would you rather in the long term?
single with one child or single with two?
personally, i'd choose two. life tends to work itself out. but there are a lot of advantages to just one as well

fanfrickintastic · 31/05/2017 12:31

I'd terminate the pregnancy and my relationship. Doesn't sound like it is going anywhere anyway.

KatharinaRosalie · 31/05/2017 12:33

OP, and what does he think you should do to 'fix the sex life'? You said that he does not help in any way, practically or emotionally, and only sulks and huffs if you don't have sex as often as he wants to.

So what's his solution here?

user1485342611 · 31/05/2017 12:33

It seems that this baby is a wanted baby for you, and will be lucky to have you for a mother.
Your husband sounds selfish and unreasonable.

Funnyface1 · 31/05/2017 12:33

I just want to say I'm sending you virtual support, what a difficult position you've found yourself in.

Reading between the lines I'm not sure your marriage is in a good place either way. Do you think you could go forward and have a good life together if you've felt your only choice is to lose this baby that you seem to want?

I don't know about doing it alone. I have massive support from my dh, he's the one who really pushed for our second baby but I still find it really hard work. But would it be harder to end the pregnancy if that's not what you really want?

You have lots of thinking to do and I wish you luck. I would have a long hard think about how your partner treats you.

blankface · 31/05/2017 12:33

Please make the choice for you and your son.

Please listen to other peoples' experiences of terminations, it's not as cut and dried as some people would have you believe, there can be a massive emotional toll.

Personally, I'd ditch the man whose only focus is sex as he doesn't care about you apart from being there to service his needs and keep two beautiful little ones and be a single parent.

Wishing you wisdom to make the right decision for you and your son Flowers

GabsAlot · 31/05/2017 12:34

wow user how horrible for you

op u need to do whats right for u not him- no offence he doesnt sound helpful or supportive at all-boo hoo he didnt get alot of sleep what did he think u were doing then painting your nails!

what if u terminate and u get prgnant by accident again? u going to just keep terminating because he doesnt want another?

IshipTomHardysohard · 31/05/2017 12:35

It's your decision to terminate the pregnancy or not op not your husbands.

I'm agreeing so much with what the others are saying, your marriage sounds horrible. He sounds like a petulant child.

I would be keeping the baby and getting rid of the husband. Good luck Flowers

InvisibleKittenAttack · 31/05/2017 12:37

Agree that you should take your 'D'H out of the equation.

Would you like to have 2DCs? It's highly likely you'll be a single parent sooner or later anyway, so base plans on that.

It's perfectly ok to return to work pregnant, much easier for your employer to plan for than you returning and getting pregnant within a few months, meaning they have to go through recruiting for your position again - they might be able to reassign your current cover for a few months.

Is there anything that might make this easier this time round? Could you afford help in the home so you can get more sleep if you have another non-sleeper? Can you return to work earlier so it's not such an effect on your career? (your career is important if it's likely you'll be on your own)

justkeepswimmingg · 31/05/2017 12:38

Sounds like your OH didn't expect things to change once you'd had your DS, and it's been a shock to the system. Part of being in a loving relationship is accepting your OH warts and all, and it sounds to me like he regrets the path you've both chosen in having DS.
I wouldn't terminate a pregnancy based on what you've said about your OH. I think you may regret that choice, and resent him.
It also sounds like your relationship isn't very strong at the moment, prior to falling pregnant again. Can you see yourself lasting in this relationship? Not taking your DS into consideration, because you shouldn't stay with someone for the benefit of your children. Could you raise two alone, and be happy? I'm not saying LTB, but would he leave if you didn't terminate this pregnancy? If yes I think that answers your question, and that your OH isn't fully committed to this relationship. You have to go through the bad to get the good, and it doesn't sound like he can deal with the bad.
I'm sorry you're in this situation OP, and I wish you the best x

Chattycat78 · 31/05/2017 12:39

So sorry OP. How hard for you. Did you have contraception fail? It's bloody ironic isn't it after infertility?!Flowers

Moanyoldcow · 31/05/2017 12:39

I do not see how your relationship will survive either way. If I were you I'd decide if I WANT the baby and keep it if I did or have a termination if I didn't.

Either way I'd be starting divorce proceedings. It's not acceptable to behave like he is in any situation, let alone this one. If he's not willing to start counselling and accepting some responsibility and acceptance for life being different your marriage has no future.

Two under 2 is/will be very tough. But it's it forever. Do you have any family nearby who will support you through a divorce?

HeadDreamer · 31/05/2017 12:40

I want to add to the voice that your marriage looks doomed anyway with or without a second child.

Can you think about a future with you and two children only? Then consider if you will terminate for yourself. Never ever do it for someone else. It sounds like you have always wanted more children and you might well regret this.

Moanyoldcow · 31/05/2017 12:41

It's 'not' forever!

And to add - I'm so sorry you're going through this. The past months must've been so draining Flowers

HeadDreamer · 31/05/2017 12:42

Just to add that I'm pro choice and had a terminate myself when very young and single. But I know I was doing it for myself and I have not regretted it and it's now 20 years later. But it's a very big decision. Do it for yourself only.

stopmoaningpip · 31/05/2017 12:42

How long have you known? It must have been a big shock for both of you and neither of you can have had very long to think about it.
As you know it is going to be hard but it's possible it might be different in some ways this time.
For example, if you know that he didn't cope well with the new baby phase last time (mine didn't either) you will both be more prepared for that this time and you can organise more help from other people (family, 'mum friends' you might not have met yet last time, paid help eg childminder for older one, cleaner).

Also, trying to think positively, he might be more useful this time if his main role in helping is to manage older child while you concentrate on the baby rather than trying to help out with a newborn. Especially bearing in mind your first will be very different by then and will probably be walking, climbing etc - some people find that stage easier than the baby stage.
None of this is trying to talk you out of a termination if that's what you want to do (though from what you've written it doesn't sound like you do want to) or to make excuses for what sounds like some less than edifying behaviour from your husband but just looking at it from another angle in case it helps you.
I wish you all the best for your decision.

MatildaTheCat · 31/05/2017 12:42

I would ask him to move out while you consider your options very carefully. He's behaved appallingly even without this pregnancy....it just infuriates me how a man can apparently long for a child, go through all that IVF entails and then get surprised by sleepless nights tired wife and less sex than in the unhappy childless years.

He needs to seek counselling as well. If you terminate and separate it will be his fault. Can he pull himself together and face his responsibilites and support you and his DC?

Don't rush into any decisions and don't let him try to persuade you. He's had his say and you get to decide. If you want two DC then continue the pregnancy and only continue the marriage if he sorts himself out and bloody fast.

Fwiw I have known men to vastly improve after the baby years but only you can judge that one.

Good luck.

toomuchtooold · 31/05/2017 12:42

The thing about having another child is that although you will have lots to do looking after it, that period of dependency doesn't last forever - the baby will grow up. Can you say the same about your husband?

Chickpearocker · 31/05/2017 12:43

I'm concerned with your husbands preoccupation with sex over your emotional needs. Sounds like he is putting pressure on you which is a huge red flag OP.

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2017 12:46

Keep the baby, dump the husband.

HerOtherHalf · 31/05/2017 12:48

Your husband is a selfish, immature man-child and will probably never change. Only you can decide whether to continue with your pregnancy or not but please, please, please, whatever you decide, do it for yourself and not for him.

Choccyhobnob · 31/05/2017 12:50

Wow what a tough situation, I can empathise as my DH has really struggled since our DS was born and he also suffers from depression. We very rarely have sex but he never pressures me. He sleeps in the spare room as even at 2 years old our DS breastfeeds most of the night so everyone gets more sleep if he shares with me.

Your DH does sound slightly less supportive than mine, and I don't think mine would ask me to get a termination but I could imagine myself in your situation very easily.

Rather than agree with all the other LTB comments I am going to suggest you really try relationship counselling. I would keep the baby and then really try and work on the relationship. If he refuses to then unfortunately it may be that you have to separate. But at least give him the chance to see how much he'll fight for it.

lots of love, it is such a hard decision xx