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to end pregnancy because of husband, or to carry on despite him?

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NeutralUserName · 31/05/2017 11:58

I don't have anyone in real life that I feel I can discuss this with, because it is so fucking embarrassing, but I thought that perhaps posting on here would give me some other angles... sorry it's a bit long, at least there are paragraphs ...

I'm pregnant (very early, about five weeks). I didn't want this to happen. We were being careful. Obviously not careful enough.

I have a baby who'll be one in September. I have a history of infertility, IVF treatment and miscarriage before he came along. It was absolutely awful, and I know exactly how lucky I am to have my beautiful boy. I used to hope for two children but I was / am reconciled to having just the one and I genuinely feel very lucky to have him. I'm considering ending this new pregnancy because of my husband.

This new pregnancy was not planned. My husband is horrified at the thought of another baby. He found the early days with our son very difficult and suffered badly with depression due to sleeplessness (although he did not get up much to help) and the change in our relationship (basically, he was very upset that I did not feel very sexy and was not really interested in sex). He was not very emotionally or practically supportive of me in those first weeks/months and I did not have the energy or emotional capacity to take care of him as well as looking after our tiny baby, struggling with breastfeeding, and recovering from c-section. He refused to seek help for his low mood and we have argued about this many times.

He's been pretty clear since our son was born that he doesn't want another. I've felt sad about this but more or less come to terms with it because I feel so lucky with the one child. I've never agreed out loud that we will never have any more because I wasn't 100%.

I don't have any reason to think that he'd find another baby any easier than the first one. He does love our son now, although I think it is still mixed with resentment for how his life has changed. I would say they have a good relationship. He's good at playing with him and takes an interest and pride in his development.

Sex is a big issue in our relationship. He doesn't really understand or accept that I want it less frequently than he does. He thinks there is something wrong with me. He finds it difficult and very hurtful and this manifests itself in some epic grumpiness / huffs / sulks / loud sighing (these are all not quite the right words but will have to do). He thinks that fixing our sex life has to be our main focus and that having another baby will totally screw things up. I think that I am being unfairly compared with some rose-tinted image of what life was like about ten years ago.

I am seriously considering termination and have made an appointment at the clinic (for discussion). If I do this then it is better done quickly and as soon as possible. I feel utterly hypocritical and ridiculous for considering a termination of this pregnancy given my history of struggling and absolute desperation to have a baby. If I do it, it will pretty much be because of his behaviour the first time round. In a nutshell, I believe that having another baby so soon may well cause us to break up and then my little boy will miss out on a proper relationship with his dad. And I'll be bringing up two kids alone. Even if we don't split, it will probably sour things further and even in the best of circumstances, having two under two is one a hell of a challenge. Plus I will be one of those women who returns from mat leave already pregnant - I can front this out and it won't be a problem with public sector HR but still ... I take my career very seriously and it will be difficult with two tinies.

But - it would be a baby and a sibling for my son, and I know I'd love it like crazy. If he was a different kind of person I wouldn't be thinking about a termination; I'd still have some mixed feelings as it's so soon but I'd be happy and I’d make it work. It's a serious thing to do, ending a pregnancy because of someone else. He says I'll blame him for this forever and he has a point.

So - if you're still with me - which is least unreasonable? Continuing the pregnancy even though it'll be a massive strain on a less than brilliant relationship and likely have an impact on my existing child? Or ending the pregnancy because of my husband's feelings? I don't know what the hell to do now. What else should I be considering?

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 31/05/2017 12:53

I'm so pro-choice that it hurts, but in this situation, honestly, I'd do some work deciding what you want. You didn't oops your DH, you gave him sex that you didn't really want by the sounds of it and that resulted in a conception that deep down you appear to want. I do wonder about the effects on you if you choose a termination ... and I rarely say that. Your DH sounds like a knob, by the way.

TiredMumToTwo · 31/05/2017 12:55

In your situation I would terminate as I know I wouldn't be able to look after two on my own - would def ditch husband.

pestov · 31/05/2017 12:57

He's been pretty clear since our son was born that he doesn't want another. - he should have taken responsibility then. Why didn't he have a vasectomy? Double up on contraception? Everyone knows accidents happen, especially in the first year after birth. Had he not been so insistent on sex this probably wouldn't have happened.

He does love our son now, although I think it is still mixed with resentment for how his life has changed. - that's because it's not all about him anymore

He thinks there is something wrong with me - nope, just him!

I feel utterly hypocritical and ridiculous for considering a termination of this pregnancy given my history of struggling and absolute desperation to have a baby. - you've answered your own question here. You don't want to terminate

In a nutshell, I believe that having another baby so soon may well cause us to break up and then my little boy will miss out on a proper relationship with his dad - if he has any love and decency towards your son, he will move heaven and earth to ensure they have a proper relationship. You will of course help to facilitate it: shared parenting doesn't always look like the Jeremy Kyle show.

YANBU to consider termination though, this must be an awful realisation to have to come to. However, if you do choose to abort your baby, I have a feeling you will regret it for the rest of your life, irrespective of whether the relationship lasts. What happens if this happens again?

hackmum · 31/05/2017 13:00

It is very tough. I don't think anyone would claim that looking after two very small children could be easy, let alone when your relationship is difficult and your DH is so set against a second.

Nobody can make this decision for you but one to look at it is to think about how you might feel in two years' time: How will I feel if I kept the baby? How wiIl feel if I had a termination?

It seems to me the main risks are:

  1. You keep the baby, and your marriage breaks up. You are a single parent of two small children, feeling frazzled, lonely and short of money.
  1. You have a termination, and you feel huge regret about not having a second child, and massively resentful towards your DH. Your marriage possibly breaks up anyway and you are the single parent of one child - not quite so badly off, but still unhappy.

Of course there are alternative scenarios - you have the termination, you and your DH work things out and everything is fine. Or you have the termination, you split up and you meet someone else and have a baby with them.

BillSykesDog · 31/05/2017 13:03

You will resent him forever if you do this. So it won't save your marriage anyway. Sounds like you already love the baby too.

DomJolyNurse · 31/05/2017 13:03

Finding out you are pregnant is different from planning pregnancy. So whilst there may have been reasons to avoid pregnancy, now that you are, doesnt mean you have to terminate.

If your DH was having what he considers a great sex life then I think you would be delighted.
Although sex is important I don't think I'd ever get over this being the reason for the termination.

You have only had a baby 1 year ago, sex life may take a while to get back on track but do you think your libido is in part less because of his attitude? (huffing and tutting, it would put me off until he started behaving more caring/got over himself).

pointythings · 31/05/2017 13:04

If you really want a second child and have had all those fertility issues, do you want to give up this chance that nature has given you? For the sake of someone who has refused to seek treatment for their depression, considers his sex life to be more important than your wellbeing, who grumps and huffs and does not help with parenting? Being a single parent of two is hard, but you're kind of a single parent of two already...

finnthepink · 31/05/2017 13:06

Don't go ahead with a termination in the belief it will keep your family intact...it wont.

This.

I am 100% pro choice. It sounds like a termination isn't what you would choose though. What do you really want, OP?

Flowers
PlymouthMaid1 · 31/05/2017 13:06

I think you could come to really regret a termination if you never have another child. You will blame your husband but also yourself. Tough decision.

ArchieStar · 31/05/2017 13:07

I'm with steff I'd keep the baby and dump the dodo. He doesn't sound like he wanted his first if that if his behaviour. Only you can decide at the end of the day. Hugs OP Flowers

Iris65 · 31/05/2017 13:09

I'm so pro-choice that it hurts, but in this situation, honestly, I'd do some work deciding what you want. You didn't oops your DH, you gave him sex that you didn't really want by the sounds of it and that resulted in a conception that deep down you appear to want. I do wonder about the effects on you if you choose a termination ... and I rarely say that. Your DH sounds like a knob, by the way.

I would have posted this too.

3littlebadgers · 31/05/2017 13:09

Reading your post it sounds as though you would like another child. You may not get a chance again if you struggled the first time and I worry you will regret not continuing if you terminate.

You are not responsible for your Dh's attitudes and reactions. This is the situation you did not cause it anymore than he did. What he decides to do is something he will have to live with.

Also going from 1 DC to 2 is so much less of a shock than 0 to 1
Good luck Flowers

Emmie412 · 31/05/2017 13:09

My husband only really got fatherhood after we had our second child. It doesn't make him a dick, the process just took a while.

He struggled with the notion how much life had changed, how demanding it all was and how tied up we suddenly were. Gone were the days of leisurely sex in the morning and it was hello to having to wait until the baby was asleep - often meaning he'd find me snoring on the sofa with literally zero interest in sex.We had our worst fights during the first year of our eldest - it is a shock to the system.
We had a second child because both of us agreed it is good for children to grow up with siblings. Fast forward a few years, our youngest is now 3 and the lack of sleep etc. is all behind us now.

I think you need to speak to your husband, maybe go to couple's counselling before deciding either way. There was a reason why you two fell in love and decided to get married. It is also healthy for a married couple to have some babyfree time every now and then to find that connection again to get you through.

Ultimately, if you want to have a second child and struggle conceiving, I'd suggest keeping this baby as you may never get another chance. Life can be tough but you have survived all your crappy days so far with 100% success rate - with or without your husband.

BeTheHokeyMan · 31/05/2017 13:10

Regardless of what you decide to do about the baby I'd leave your husband .He really doesn't sound like a nice man my heart goes out to you reading your op he is selfish and nasty and you would be much happier without him,whether as a single mother of one or two Flowers

Oliversmumsarmy · 31/05/2017 13:12

If you think he is comparing you to what you were like 10 years ago then what happens 10 / 20/ 30 years from now. We can't stay 21 forever it is called growing up. I would think if you can't do the impossible and be that 10 years younger person forever then he is more than likely to go out and get someone who is.

This marriage is dead in the water. If a child's father resents them because he has had to go without sex for a few weeks/months whilst his wife recovers from major abdominal surgery I couldn't be with that person.

Once you have children they come first any father or mother will tell you that. This grown man wants to his willy to be put first.

Dump him and have the baby. It might be a bit hairy to have 2 under 2s as a single parent but nothing is forever your little boy will be growing up with a sibling and you will have space in your life to fill with whatever you want and not be running around after this over grown teenager.

Lunalovepud · 31/05/2017 13:12

I can't imagine why you don't want to have sex with him every 5 seconds OP (sarcasm) - nothing sexier in my opinion than a selfish, unsupportive, needy, sulky husband - particularly when you are knackered with a new baby, recovering from major surgery and struggling with new motherhood. What a catch he is!

I'd keep the baby and get rid of the husband... He sounds like a selfish manchild.

If you terminate, do it for yourself not for him - you will probably blame him forever if you do, but then if I was you, I would be carting around some pretty serious resentment about the fact that my husband was a complete dickhead when my baby was born anyway.

It's a crap situation OP and I really feel for you. Whatever you decide I hope you make a choice that will make YOU happy.

coconutpie · 31/05/2017 13:13

Keep the baby. Dump your husband, he sounds like a prick. He doesn't help out at all, he complains about lack of sleep when he's not up at night, he doesn't help out in general and then he bitches and moans about lack of sex?! Better off to be a single parent to two than dealing with a selfish, unsupportive twat.

DameDeDoubtance · 31/05/2017 13:13

Eventually the relationship will end anyway, or you will be miserable stuck with this selfish man. Only terminate if i is what YOU want to do. I would ditch the husband, he sounds awful.

Mummagrizzlebear · 31/05/2017 13:14

Keep the baby and dump the DH - I think you will regret it if you have a termination and will resent DH further on down the line

Bunbunbunny · 31/05/2017 13:14

your dh needs to grow up, get him into therapy

dailydance · 31/05/2017 13:15

Personally, I would keep the baby and terminate the relationship with the man-child.

hibbledobble · 31/05/2017 13:16

Op the answer seems pretty obvious to me. You don't want a termination, so don't have one.

Your relationship with your husband may or may not survive with a second child, but the same could be said if you had a termination.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 31/05/2017 13:18

So I would be asking myself: do I want to be single with one child or single with 2?

this OP Flowers

best of luck to you

ShinyGirl · 31/05/2017 13:18

I would keep the baby and tell him he either grows up or fucks off, and I would mean it.

MiriAmmerman · 31/05/2017 13:19

I'm not normally one for throwing the LTBs around but it doesn't sound like you have a good marriage anyway. Make the decision based on what you want, regardless of your DH.

How would you feel if you had a termination to save your marriage, then got a divorce in 18 months anyway?

You have 2 separate problems - a difficult marriage, and an unexpected pregnancy. The solutions aren't inextricably bound together.

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