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...about a 'delicate' friend?

428 replies

Nettletheelf · 30/05/2017 10:53

I'm part of a group of six who have been friends for more than twenty years. We're all women in our forties.

We live in different parts of the country and go on holiday together twice a year: city breaks, spa breaks, that sort of thing.

One of our number (who I'm less friendly with than the others, but whom I still like) regards herself as 'delicate'. She has never been diagnosed with any health problems, but her delicacy manifests itself as follows:

  • nights out have to be curtailed early because she 'gets tired easily' and can't go back to the hotel or airBnB on her own.
  • many restaurant and cafe options are rejected because she has a delicate digestion and the menu doesn't suit it.
  • when we find a restaurant or cafe that fits the specification, she has to choose the best chair because of her delicate joints.
  • when we order wine in a restaurant, she won't have the same as everybody else because whatever everybody else likes somehow upsets her delicate stomach.
  • says that she never sleeps in hotels or unfamiliar bedrooms, so everybody has to walk slowly in the morning because she is exhausted.

We've just returned from a trip, so I'm more irritated than I'd normally be. What I don't get is how she manages to take so many people in. Am I the unreasonable one? There's nothing medically wrong with the woman.

After a long-ish day out on our most recent trip, we decided to sit on the balcony and have a glass of wine. Delicate friend decided that she was going straight to bed because she was tired through not sleeping in unfamiliar beds, etc. After she said goodnight, one of the other members of the group said, "X has done well today hasn't she?"

Me: "Done well how?"

Friend: "well, it's been a long day and it's late for her" (it was 10.30 pm)

Me: "She's a grown up. She can cope with being up until 10.30".

Friend: "but she's a delicate little flower, isn't she?"

Me (laughing): "she's no more delicate than you or I!"

I resent being part of what feels like a ridiculous pantomime in which we're all expected to dance attendance on the dainty, delicate one. I think that cultivating 'delicacy' is a very good way of getting other people to dance to your tune.

Am I right or am I just intolerant?

Luckily I only see this particular friend twice a year. I see the others far more regularly.

OP posts:
sweetbitter · 30/05/2017 12:33

It's tricky, I had a friend who was somewhat like this though it sort of manifested differently. In the end spending time with her for more than a couple of hours at a time just became too infuriating and I wasn't enjoying it any more, so I stopped seeing her over time (we live too far apart to ever meet up for less than an overnight). I feel bad in a way, but surely if you are friends with someone you should enjoy spending time with that person, and I just wasn't any more. Equally there was no point trying to discuss any of it with her as part of the problem was how sensitive she was and nothing was ever her fault but rather people being mean to her.

So OP I'd say just stop seeing her but it's not so simple if it's always in the same group...in brief, I don't know what you should do but YANBU.

Anothernewnn · 30/05/2017 12:34

If the others like her though then the problem born is with you.

Anothernewnn · 30/05/2017 12:35

Born? Where did that come from?! Hmm

Brogadoccio · 30/05/2017 12:35

ps, just read that she goes dancing three nights a week!

You are absolutely right OP, consciously or unconsciously she has found an excellent way of making sure that she gets her own way and/or that her needs are always met no matter who else has to sleep on the floor.

heron98 · 30/05/2017 12:35

YANBU. I knew a girl like this once. For her birthday meal we had to meet at 6pm as she didn't like to eat too late! It got quite wearing after a while.

muffinbluffer · 30/05/2017 12:35

Most of the replies on this thread are why I am too afraid to make friends...I have PTSD, CFS (yes, no one believes in that), depression, anxiety, various pain disorders and now suspected MS. My immune system is compromised as is my digestion. It is due to a very abusive childhood.

I am stuck in most days as I can't walk far. I don't want or expect people to give me attention.

But people tell me how well I look. I rarely talk about my symptoms when I do see people, even if I have a fever, and am in terrible pain. So they think I am fine.

Having said that I would not expect people to adjust every activity to suit me though have always hoped that people were compassionate.

hoddtastic · 30/05/2017 12:35

i think we have a mutual friend. I love my friend but she is so spoiled, and was spoiled by her parents, her husband and now her new partner.

When we're away we have to eat on her schedule, in places she likes 'or she'll faint'. We have to accommodate her 'hours' for want of a better phrase. I love her dearly, we no longer go on holiday with her, i don't have time, money or inclination to pander to a 40 year old.

RossGellersteeth · 30/05/2017 12:36

Woah, there, Ross. Just talking to a fellow MS sufferer.

No, you insinuated that people here were "sneering" at people with MS.

pigeondujour · 30/05/2017 12:37

l'm always puzzled by the 'attention seeking' explanation. Who would really want all their friends, relatives and work colleagues to think of them as an annoying twat?

My friend would simply not have had that level of insight, I don't think. She had no concept of needing to bring something to the table in any of her relationships or at work.

Kokusai · 30/05/2017 12:37

Wanting to go home early - fine.
Wanting other people to take you home because you can't go alone - attention seeking pathetic crazy behavior

user1492287253 · 30/05/2017 12:38

i would just call her out on it every now and then. i had a friend of a friend who did mountain walking and serroca dancing and ran. every time we were away there was something that meant she was special

woollyminded · 30/05/2017 12:39

I had one of these, it all came to a head when one of our group had a serious (professionally diagnosed) illness and needed adjustments from all of us. It was fine, we were happy to do it for friend B but friend A consistently felt that their need for the best bedroom, chair, front seat in the car, lift to the shop with the good tomatoes yadda yadda still trumped. She was a nice enough woman, good fun when it was all going her way but but could not give us any sensible reason why we had to change every little thing for her or accept that this was a problem for friend B with cancer.

Long story short of it, not seen A for years, we all gradually stopped fetching/returning her to things and B is doing quite well now.

So yeah, OP, I'm sympathetic and YANBU. It's hard to deal with when you are a group of nice people and you don't want to lose all your friends by challenging this one.

cushioncovers · 30/05/2017 12:39

Muffin your situation is different though you have ongoing health problems and so any friends of yours would know this. The 'delicate friend' that op is talking about doesn't have any health conditions and goes dancing several times a week.

peaceout · 30/05/2017 12:40

She may be delicate, fragile but she also appears to be attention seeking and it is the latter that I'd have a problem with

Radishal · 30/05/2017 12:41

Plenty of people do not tell everyone they have MS. It's not obvious.

Muffin, I totally get it. It took me ages to get a diagnosis and it is hard to explain to people that you just don't feel right. And some days you do feel ok or you have an effective coping strategy for somethings not others.
Best wishes to you.

And no, I can't stand drama llamas either but my own experience has told me not to be a bitch about it and to just disengage with someone who is, in your eyes, acting up.

TheClaws · 30/05/2017 12:41

The lady in question, who this thread is about is not have MS...Why are you making this all about you? I haven't seen anyone on here sneering at MS sufferers...in fact you and TheClaws are the only ones talking about MS

Ross, try reading. The "sneering" part was everyone else at supposed "delicate people". Not those with MS. Helpfully you're proving the point.

treaclesoda · 30/05/2017 12:41

l'm always puzzled by the 'attention seeking' explanation. Who would really want all their friends, relatives and work colleagues to think of them as an annoying twat?

Attention seeking types don't necessarily want people to like them. What they want is validation that they are special, that they are different to other people, that their feelings matter more than other people's.

UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 30/05/2017 12:41

@Nettletheelf For whatever reasons, your friend is as she is. I understand why you are annoyed, but as others have said there is clearly more to this than meets the eye, physically or psychologically. I think if you continue to holiday with this group her ways are something you'll have to accept as it's unlikely to change.

Radishal · 30/05/2017 12:42

Ross. Of course I wasn't insinuating that.

Pollydonia · 30/05/2017 12:43

Yadnbu. I have a disability that causes mobility issues and pain and my meds cause tiredness.
Had a day trip yesterday with some friends of the family. One of them played the delicate flower all day. As someone up thread said, I nearly asked if he wanted my disability Hmm.
I do my best to just get on with it. Yes, I'm sore and stiff today but that's life.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 30/05/2017 12:44

It's quite common to find sleeping in hotels difficult or to be unkowingly low in iron so feel a bit weak or to be find some foods don't agree. What really matters is her attitude. Yes some people naturally are more delicate then others but making a song and dance about it would annoy.

RossGellersteeth · 30/05/2017 12:44

muffinbluffer

You have genuine health concerns, I'd imagine your friends would be happy to help you out and take things at your pace. The lady the OP is referring to just sounds like a pampered, spoilt pain in the neck.

RossGellersteeth · 30/05/2017 12:47

Agree, TheClaws. The sneering is a bit off.

Your own words Radishal

PurpleMinionMummy · 30/05/2017 12:47

Yanbu. Ime those with genuine health issues are happy to compromise on anything difficult so plans suit EVERYONE. They don't expect to dictate everyone else's life/food/drinks/bedtimes.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 30/05/2017 12:48

Yes perfectly fine to want to go to bed early. Not ok to make others go home early and miss out

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