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Jeremy Corbyn interview on Woman's Hour just now

192 replies

LovelyBath77 · 30/05/2017 10:28

Very embarrassing, lost the figures for free childcare. Not giving me much faith to be honest! Are you listening?

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Keenoonvino · 30/05/2017 19:07

costed, not coded

deeedeee · 30/05/2017 19:11

I want to know why I've seen clips of that businessman asking JC about corporation tax and private school fees etc.

But I have not seen one repetition of that heartfelt reply from the midwife in the audience about the state of the NHS after May had prattled on not answering her question.

Or May being laughed at by the audience and jeered.

Yabbadabbo2 · 30/05/2017 19:16

Don't worry about figures, the magic money tree at downing street will cover all the costs should labour actually win.

Jellykat · 30/05/2017 20:08

The Torys haven't even bothered costing a lot of their promises, maybe that'll come from the money tree too?

hackmum · 30/05/2017 20:13

Yabbadabbo2: "Don't worry about figures, the magic money tree at downing street will cover all the costs should labour actually win."

Is the magic money tree also going to cover the extra £8bn a year Theresa May is promising the NHS?

And what about the 7p per breakfast, which is what she is promising the new free school breakfasts the Tories are going to provide? By what miracle is that going to buy a full breakfast for every primary school child in the country?

Or could it be that May is either a) lying b) clueless c) both?

Answers on a postcard...

caroldecker · 30/05/2017 20:20

deeedeee Because conservative supporters are too polite and reasonable to laugh and jeer. It is the Left that have to talk over people.

Fluffy24 · 30/05/2017 20:22

Car crash!

JustAnotherPoster00 · 30/05/2017 21:51

Don't worry about figures, the magic money tree at downing street will cover all the costs should labour actually win.

Is that the one the tories shake when they want to go and bomb somewhere or want to give mates rates to big business? Hmm

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 30/05/2017 22:13

It was very poor form

And especially at this point so close to Election Day

Even Corbyn apologiesed there was no excuse poor planning and shouldn't have happened

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 30/05/2017 22:22

And another excuse he had a difficult interview one that he has had hours to prepare for

he is putting himself forward to be PM. Regardless of what you think of May in the last week the pressure she has been under has been immense she wouldn't get away with making such gaffs

Twillow · 30/05/2017 23:18

Tbh there are hardly any costings in May's manifesto which nobody seems to be attacking her about..

ExplodedCloud · 30/05/2017 23:31

Have hardly been about today but I agree he's had a bad day.
I'm still voting Labour.
TM has had many bad days since 2010.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 30/05/2017 23:40

People seem to forget that if politicians hadnt had talks with the IRA then the peace process would never have happened and people would still be getting murdered left right and centre

Not this nonsense again. Corbyn was an obscure, hard left back bencher. He contributed nothing to the peace process. He had no power to offer or deliver anything. He is so ridiculously anti-establishment that he was willing to consort with these murderers.

goldaspickledfruit · 31/05/2017 00:14

YouGov poll nine days before election predicts hung parliament

metro.co.uk/2017/05/30/yougov-poll-one-week-before-election-predicts-hung-parliament-6673577/

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JimmyGrimble · 31/05/2017 00:20

Not this nonsense again. Corbyn was an obscure, hard left back bencher. He contributed nothing to the peace process. He had no power to offer or deliver anything. He is so ridiculously anti-establishment that he was willing to consort with these murderers
He won the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award in 2013 for his work in NI, amongst other things.
Ian Paisley famously refused to take up his seat in Parliament as he believed that Margaret Thatcher was meeting with the IRA. She was of course. But dont let these facts get in the way of your mindless hatred. Do carry on.

caroldecker · 31/05/2017 00:27

Corbyn claimed organised govt is better than the chaos of the middle east. Therefore he would have supported Gadaff in the revolution, despite his part in the Lockerbie bombing. And Hussain in Iraq, and Assad in Syria.

deeedeee · 31/05/2017 00:41

'Here's what I'm really struggling to understand. All I've ever heard from people, for years, is
"bloody bankers and their bonuses"
"bloody rich and their offshore tax havens "
"bloody politicians with their lying and second homes"
“bloody corporations paying less tax than me”
"bloody Establishment, they're all in it together”
“it'll never change, there's no point in voting”

And quite rightly so, I said all the same things.

But then someone comes along that's different. He upsets the bankers and the rich. The Tory politicians hate him along with most of the labour politicians. The corporations throw more money at the politicians to keep him quiet. And the Establishment is visibly shaken. I've never seen the Establishment so genuinely scared of a single person.

So the media arm of the establishment gets involved. Theresa phones Rupert asking what he can do, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut, don't do the live debate, he'll sort this out. So the media goes into overdrive with…
“she's strong and stable”
“he's a clown”
“he's not a leader”
“look he can't even control his own party”
“he'll ruin the economy”
“how's he gonna pay for it all?!”
“AND he's a terrorist sympathiser, burn him, burn the terrorist sympathiser”

And what do we? We've waited forever for an honest politician to come along but instead of getting behind him we bow to the establishment like good little workers. They whistle and we do a little dance for them. We run around like hypnotised robots repeating headlines we've read, all nodding and agreeing. Feeling really proud of ourselves because we think we've came up with our very own first political opinion. But we haven't, we haven't came up with anything. This is how you tell. No matter where someone lives in the country, they're repeating the same headlines, word for word. From Cornwall to Newcastle people are saying
“he's a clown”
“he’s a threat to the country”
“she's strong and stable”
“he'll take us back to the 70s”

And there's nothing else, there's no further opinion. There's no evidence apart from 1 radio 5 interview that isn't even concrete evidence, he actually condemns the violence of both sides in the interview. There's no data or studies or official reports to back anything up. Try and think really hard why you think he's a clown, other than the fact he looks like a geography teacher. (no offence geography teachers) because he hasn't done anything clownish from what I've seen.

And you're not on this planet if you think the establishment and the media aren't all in it together.

You think Richard Branson, who's quietly winning NHS contracts, wants Corbyn in?

You think Rupert Murdoch, who's currently trying to widen his media monopoly by buying sky outright, wants Jeremy in?

You think the Barclay brothers, with their offshore residencies, want him in?

You think Philip Green, who stole all the pensions from BHS workers and claims his wife owns Top Shop because she lives in Monaco, wants Corbyn in?

You think the politicians, both Labour and Tory, with their second homes and alcohol paid for by us, want him in?

You think Starbucks, paying near zero tax, wants him in?

You think bankers, with their multi million pound bonuses, want him in?

And do you think they don't have contact with May? Or with the media? You honestly think that these millionaires and billionaires are the sort of people that go “ah well, easy come easy go, it was nice while it lasted”?? I wouldn't be if my personal fortune was at risk, I'd be straight on the phone to Theresa May or Rupert Murdoch demanding this gets sorted immediately.

Because here's a man, a politician that doesn't lie, he can't lie, he could have said whatever would get him votes anytime he wanted but he hasn't. He lives in a normal house like us and uses the bus just like us. He's fought for justice and peace for nearly 40 years. He has no career ambitions. And his seat is untouchable. That's one of the greatest testimonies. No one comes close to removing him from his constituency, election after election.

His Manifesto is fully costed. It all adds up, yes there's some borrowing but that's just to renationalise the railway, you know we already subsidise them and they make profit yeah? One more time… WE subsidise the railway companies and they walk away with a profit, just try and grasp the level of piss taking going on there.

Unlike the Tory manifesto with a £9 billion hole, their figures don't even add up.

And it benefits all of us, young, old, working, disabled, everyone.

How can you not want that?

JimmyGrimble · 31/05/2017 00:42

Well said deeedeee.
Ask yourself - Who doesn't want what you describe?

Charmageddon · 31/05/2017 00:47

Furthermore, JC is very unlikely to lie, therefore it is much harder for him to slime his way out as many other politicians including TM would do.

😂😂

This is the sort of post which backs up this one:

Seriously, it's cult-like. Do not criticise Jeremy. Blame anyone/everything else for Jeremy's failings. Turn criticism back to Theresa May, as if she were there, in the corner of the radio studio pole dancing to put poor Jeremy off his stride. Never, never acknowledge that Jeremy is anything but the second coming and the saviour of us all.

deeedeee · 31/05/2017 00:51

He's not the messiah, but he's damn well trying to be a decent man.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 31/05/2017 00:52

He won the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award in 2013 for his work in NI, amongst other things.
Ian Paisley famously refused to take up his seat in Parliament as he believed that Margaret Thatcher was meeting with the IRA. She was of course. But dont let these facts get in the way of your mindless hatred. Do carry on

The Gandhi Foundation despite its grandiose name is nothing more than a UK voluntary group. It has no connection to Mahatma Gandhi or his family.

Its own website refers to nebulous non specific acting; nothing to do with Northern Ireland.

Thatcher had secret talks with the IRA. Mrs Thatcher was prime minister and had the power to offer deals and actually do something constructive. The talks were in secret because she wasn't actually an idiot. She understood that public talks would be used by the IRA to bolster claims that it had legitimacy. I don't doubt for a minute that Thatcher hated and despised the IRA but she had a job to do and she did it, which was then followed up by Major and Blair.

I never voted for Thatcher or Major. There are plenty of things you can criticise them for but having secret talks for the endgame of peace in Northern Ireland isn't one of them.

Corbyn on the other hand was publicly flaunting his support for them.

caroldecker · 31/05/2017 00:57

deedee his costings do not add up - they do if no-ones behaviour changes, but higher taxes drive changes in behaviour to reduce that. We all want what Corbyn is offering, but do not believe it is deliverable. Socialism does not work in any country in the world and did not work here in the 1970's.
Tories are not evil, just realists as to getting the maximum from the rich without driving them from the country/changing behaviour.
Those massive establishment figures, The Rolling Stones and The Beatles took tax holidays from the UK to avoid tax in the 60's and 70's.
Corbyn's manifesto is undeliverable, not undesirable. This is not about his competence to deliver, just a fact of human nature.

JimmyGrimble · 31/05/2017 01:02

Seriously, it's cult-like. Do not criticise Jeremy. Blame anyone/everything else for Jeremy's failings. Turn criticism back to Theresa May, as if she were there, in the corner of the radio studio pole dancing to put poor Jeremy off his stride. Never, never acknowledge that Jeremy is anything but the second coming and the saviour of us all.
Your message doesn't seem to have reached the mainstream media. JC has been subjected to a sustained and vicious campaign of personal attacks. Even David Dimbleby thinks so.

deeedeee · 31/05/2017 01:06

Carole, you think it's basically against human nature and therefore impossible for a society to look after those less fortunate than yourself?

While there are indisputably pluses and minuses to both Socialism and Capitalism, there are plenty of examples of countries with successful socialist policies....if you look at the following modern day countries, these are examples of differing extents of success:
China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

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