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Jeremy Corbyn interview on Woman's Hour just now

192 replies

LovelyBath77 · 30/05/2017 10:28

Very embarrassing, lost the figures for free childcare. Not giving me much faith to be honest! Are you listening?

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ToastDemon · 30/05/2017 11:16

Plus I don't really get the issue with Hamas. Realistically they would need to be part of any peace process in the region. They're hardly ISIS.

NoLotteryWinYet · 30/05/2017 11:17

did she ask him about how keen the nursery sector is on the free hour expansion and his min wage plans?

joopyjoops · 30/05/2017 11:18

mmm i think he is good on schools though? did you see this?

schoolcuts.org.uk/#!/

joopyjoops · 30/05/2017 11:19

you can look up your local school and see what happens under each government

JanetBrown2015 · 30/05/2017 11:19

I stopped listening as I was nearly home and I found it painful and felt sorry for Corbyn (whom I like) for not having the figures. The big problem with the 30 hours is that most nurseries cannot afford to provide them so they won't be offering them as the rate paid by the state is too low to cover over heads. Also most men and women who work full time like many mumsnetters need at least 10 hours a day as we have 2 hours commuting a day and an 8 hour day so that is 50 hours a week. 30 hours free does not allow you to do ful time work although i accept you could pay for the other 20 hours out of wages.

Sionella · 30/05/2017 11:20

Has there been any interview with any politician this entire election that hasn't been embarrassing and depressing? Would love to cheer myself up by watching it.

JanetBrown2015 · 30/05/2017 11:20

I have never supported the Saudis but many labour and Tory governments have sold British products there. It is not really a left/right issue once people are in Government.

cricketballs · 30/05/2017 11:21

I would much prefer any politician to give accurate figures, even if that means fact checking before giving an answer that the usual twaddle dished out i.e. not actually answering the question but turning it into a speech about how good they are and how rubbish the other parties are

Edsheeranalbumparty · 30/05/2017 11:21

Oh for fucks sake

Whatever else you have to say about Corbyn I am sick of people going on about him being a terrorist sympathiser, as if he is the only politician ever to have met with anyone dodgy. Give it a rest.

HattiesBackpack · 30/05/2017 11:21

ToastDemon if you 'don't really get the issue' with Hamas' then you really need to do some research!
Or are you saying that you support them and their methods?

Want2bSupermum · 30/05/2017 11:23

Omg please do a google on Hamas. You know that awful suicide bombing in Manchester? That's what Hamas would do in Israel all the time in the 90s. It was awful.

As for Saudi, the royal family are like Saddam Hussein. They are holding that country and the various fractions within it together. Remove them and you will have chaos. Also, it's a Muslim country. Why are we pushing our ideals on them? Let them, the women within, fight for their freedom, rather than us imposing our ways on them.

Edsheeranalbumparty · 30/05/2017 11:25

People seem to forget that if politicians hadnt had talks with the IRA then the peace process would never have happened and people would still be getting murdered left right and centre.

ToastDemon · 30/05/2017 11:25

Hatties I know plenty about the issue thanks. I don't see how one can condemn an association with Hamas whilst having a cordial relationship with the Israeli administration.
I don't support their methods or necessarily all of their ideology but many of their aims are perfectly legitimate, and they've certainly killed far less innocent people than their Israeli counterparts.

nursy1 · 30/05/2017 11:26

Want2b. Hamas are not the only perpetrators of violence
Let's not forget that the Israelis were bulldozing houses and breaking people's arms in refugee camps.

CheeseandGherkins · 30/05/2017 11:26

Still better than Theresa May and the tories

nursy1 · 30/05/2017 11:26

If you are a peace campaigner you work for peace by talking to all sides

NoLotteryWinYet · 30/05/2017 11:27

what about how the PLP moderates disintegrated under his leadership? I don't especially care about his terrorist links either - although I don't have any time for the view that we can negotiate a settlement with ISIS or that they'll stop attacking our children if we stop bombing them (and even so, is that OK if they mainly keep to killing people in their part of the world?)

As far as I can see, his surge in popularity is down to bribing the middle classes with free tuition (too bad for the other 50% that don't graduate), and telling old people they can keep their equity. Doesn't meet my definitions of fairness.

hackmum · 30/05/2017 11:28

He should have known the figures. But then, at least Labour have figures. Ask Theresa May how she's going to find £8bn for the NHS, and she just says that she's going to rely on the economy getting better. She might as well say she's going to rely on a fleet of unicorns delivering it.

While I'm at it, here's a piece about how Brexit is going to cost us all £1k a year in import tariffs. Enjoy.

umairhaque.com/the-case-against-brexit-that-should-have-been-made-but-wasnt-7e28e94b62cc

ToastDemon · 30/05/2017 11:28

Want2bSupermum as I've said I know plenty about the situation there. Whilst we are on the topic you might want to google the pictures of the several hundred small children blown to chunks during the 2014 war.
Palestinians presumably feel just as upset as Israelis and Mancunians about their children dying.
Good on Corbyn for not taking the usual hypocritical stance of arse-licking the Saudis and Israelis.

NoLotteryWinYet · 30/05/2017 11:35

It's all very well for Corbyn to take a pro peace stance, but in reality that means turning a blind eye as ISIS continue to kill people, ours, theirs, whoever.

Yes all very nice not to have blood on our hands, even if it doesn't reduce the overall amount of children being killed in the world thanks to ISIS.

ssd · 30/05/2017 11:39

would people prefer straightfaced lying from TM rather than JC not rattling away figures like a robot?

ssd · 30/05/2017 11:41

nolotterywinyet, if we don't have peace talks and soon, the killing will never stop

someone has to stick their head above the parapet and talk to these people, telling them what to do whilst selling them arms does not appear to be working

NoLotteryWinYet · 30/05/2017 11:44

talk to people who rape and murder children ssd? I remember switching on R4 about the time Hilary Benn was making his pro-intervention speech and hearing about mothers being forced to watch their children being raped as a punishment.

You think we can negotiate a solution with them? We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

ssd · 30/05/2017 11:47

yes, talk to people

look at the peace process in NI, it must have turned the politicians stomachs talking to some of these men, but it brought about peace

littlehandcuffs · 30/05/2017 11:51

ssd Jeremy was not involved in the peace talks in any way at all. He had absolutely no part in the peace process.