To feel the faint stirrings of hope of a Labour victory?

[KentMum2008]

Just that really? We all thought it was a done deal, T May was going to win by a landslide and we'd be crippled by another 5 years of Tory rule.

Fast forward a few weeks and a Labour victory doesn't seem like such a long shot.

AIBU to feel optimistic that Labour genuinely have a fighting chance? At the very, very least it might result in no overall majority, but the ultimate dream of a Labour govt, run by a true socialist isn't as impossible as previously though.

JC4PM!

I would imagine the garden tax will hit everybody who owns their own house, even if they are on 'ESA '.

so time to let bygones be bygones.

Righto I'll tell my friend to do just that and let you know how I get on.

Jeebus.. I thought the corporation tax hike was ridiculous with Brexit on the way and now a land tax! What planet does Labour live on?! Do they want everyone in the country roughly worth the same as each other irrespective of their jobs/salaries... it's a touch commie

user1487175389 Johnathan Ball would have been 27 this year. He's just a bygone I suppose, along with his mum and dad now.

IRA

two

Just looked at that

Our council tax will increase by approximately 5k

Fucking hell...

I've just read all the way through that Telegraph article about the "garden tax" to get to the very last line:
"A Labour spokesman said: 'This is desperate nonsense from the Tories. Labour has no such plans.'"

Just looked at that

Our council tax will increase by approximately 5k

Fucking hell...*

not sure where you are getting that figure from considering the manifesto doesn't mention what the percentage rates will be an indeed only says that they will consider a land value tax as an alternative to council tax. the tory graph article is rather misleading

Anyone else ready about how labour are going to have a Land Tax, and it will cost you more than Council Tax.

The article is mostly about a campaign for such a tax and lots of speculation. But it does make the claim

"The Labour manifesto contains plans for a Land Value Tax to replace council tax, which would hit people with gardens the hardest. The manifesto contains no detail of how the tax would be applied, but the Conservatives claim tax on the the average family home would go up from £1,185 to £3,837 per year, an increase of £2,651 or 224 per cent..

So that can be checked against the actual manifesto, if anyone fancies doing that.

labour won't win without convincing scotland. Not happening. Not to mention all the love lost in poor, working class areas where immigration is a major concern. The conservatives are going to make gains in areas they could never dream of. JC has scared off the core Labour voters, the ones who have supported the Labour party over the years.

Mummy2017
I believe it has been covered but to repeat a previous poster the last line from the article on the land tax was
A Labour spokesman said: "This is desperate nonsense from the Tories. Labour has no such plans."

green

From the various articles about it

I did try and find a non biased one but failed

Its not just in the torygraph...

Thank you for clearing the manifesto business i didnt remember seeing any figures

this is what the manifesto says

"“We will initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options such as a land value tax, to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term.”

no figures are mentioned and it is only an option that they would consider. any articles suggesting that this would amount to tax on homes trebling are scaremongering

see independent article

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-land-value-tax-manifesto-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-john-mcdonnell-a7738766.html%3Famp

Thats much better green

Thanks

you're welcome Rufus

What do you think of Labour's proposed Land Value Tax? Clearly, most households won't even be able to afford it?!
I am terrified!

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/29/tax-homes-treble-labour-plans-land-value-tax/

Vein - perhaps try reading other people's posts?

Well this little patch of thread is proving very helpful for identifying Tory Bots.

If you have hope of a Labour victory you underestimate the stupidity of the general public... The Tories will win simply because they're now the "Brexit party" and that's what all the xenophobic idiots in this country want.

Do they want everyone in the country roughly worth the same as each other irrespective of their jobs/salaries... it's a touch commie

Only "a touch"?

IT'S NOT IN THE MANIFESTO
FFS, The telegraph have done this because he did so well last night.

PerkingFaintly
They walk among us

I read in the Tory manifesto that they are planning to cut free school meals for kids to fund free breakfasts for fox-hunters. It's in the small print.

Dear God, all this 'Corbyn has IRA links' carry on is laughable. It's like they're trying to find any excuse to ruin him.

Theresa May has more links to terrorists than JC ever has.

And if we're running with the Corbyn/IRA sympathizer angle then we should also go with the Theresa May/Paedophile sympathizer angle just for good measure.