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How are you planning to vote if you earn over £80,000

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howtovote · 28/05/2017 19:12

Just wondering the above really.
I can't stand the conservatives and always assumed I would vote Labour in this election, however with the tax increase over £80k I feel I'd be shooting myself in the foot a bit.
What do others think?

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Guiltypleasures001 · 28/05/2017 19:37

Even when labour were in they didn't do anything to help my severely disabled dd. It was hell on wheels trying to get a blue badge or any kind of state help. There was next to no respite and was constantly turns down for benefits until local mencap group appealed on my behalf.

I've been a single parent on benefits and am now myself disabled, no one gave me anything, I cleaned houses and was a dinner lady. The CSA couldn't touch my ex. Labour could have done a lot of us a favour and sorted that shit out for a start

I re married and my dh is now a higher earner. The kick in the face is he works for the NHS and it will probably be us paying them for him to do his job

We don't get Corbyn we Get Red Len and his ilk. They wrote the Labour manifesto and will control and take this country back to the dark ages

Don't bother getting your kids to go to a free uni place. Because if they are lucky enough to get a high paying job. Then they will get the shit taxed out of them.

I don't agree with some of the conservative aims, but Labour scares the crap out of me, and we can't afford the Labour manifesto

Guiltypleasures001 · 28/05/2017 19:41

My training cost me thousands, which my dh funded, I've since volunteered to put back something, probably over a thousand hours by now. That's my contribution, I think sometimes you have to just crack on, and work stuff out for yourself.

RoboticSealpup · 28/05/2017 19:41

I might feel slightly differently if family income was closer to £80k

It's not family income that's relevant here, it's individual income.

SvartePetter · 28/05/2017 19:42

I'm not allowed to vote as I'm an EU national ( who has been here 15 years.) If, or when, I can vote I would vote labour or lib dem.

Moanyoldcow · 28/05/2017 19:43

How much do you actually earn? Have you done the calculations?

I do not earn £80k and I could and would happily accommodate such a modest tax increase at my salary.

howtovote · 28/05/2017 19:43

Well I believe in £100,000 it's about an extra 1k a year, rising to over 5k on £150,000. So not an insignificant amount of money.
My issue is that I don't really identify with any of the major political parties at the moment. I'm sure that the people in society who need this money will not be the ones who see the benefit unfortunately, if the money was going to those in need I would have no problem with the tax increase.

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IHaveACrapCat · 28/05/2017 19:44

I'm voting green.

If I lived in a marginal constituency I'd vote labour.

labour could put up a giant stinking turd in my constituency and it would still win with a healthy majority.

Greens are almost second in command here and they do a lot of good in the community. Helps keep the labour lot on their toes.

missyB1 · 28/05/2017 19:44

I'm a sahm but DH earns over 80k, we are both voting Labour.

RumbleMum · 28/05/2017 19:44

Lib Dem - the only possible challenger to our Tory incumbent. The widening gap between rich and poor and the state of the NHS and the education system are huge concerns and I will not vote for a Tory government that will make this situation worse.

IHaveACrapCat · 28/05/2017 19:45

Oh and I ❤️ Paying tax, would happily pay more, as I ❤️ The public sector.

No ifs, no buts, no public sector cuts

Delurked · 28/05/2017 19:46

Glad I saved you the trouble eurochick Wink

I have come across May in a work capacity in the past (NOT in any way related to the conservative party I hasten to add) and found her one of the more impressive/ competent politicians I encountered, so my view of her is coloured by my personal experience. I don't know if I'd feel differently if I had only seen her on TV. I have to say that I thought her Andrew Neill interview was not a particularly strong performance.

CormorantDevouringTime · 28/05/2017 19:46

Presumably a lot of high earners on MN have teenaged children who they'd hope to send to university (and then get into the sort of career which would mean repaying their loans). The colossal bribe of 27 grand per child dwarfs an extra 5% marginal taxation. For someone earning 100,000, 500 quid is neither here nor there.

I'm tempted, as an intermittent Labour voter, but massively unconvinced by a) Corbyn and his front bench's competence and experience (the only member of the gang with any real knowledge of how the wheels of government work is Livingstone who has other issues) b) the manifesto's silence on social care which the Tories have at least recognised as a major issue that needs tackling c) my local Labour MP.

Hulababy · 28/05/2017 19:46

I've not heard surging about removing of the personal allowance

The Personal Allowance (under age 65) is currently £11,000 but you will lose £1 of Personal Allowance for every £2 of Income over £100,000. Anyone with income over the £122,000 (£11,000 x 2) will lose their entire allowance.

That is what already happens.

witsender · 28/05/2017 19:47

Green here, but only because it is the party most likely to oust the Tories locally. I'm a Labour girl at heart.

The majority of my friends earn a lot more than me (well over your cut off), and only one is voting Tory. I love him dearly as have known him a long time, but some of his principles anger me.

WildNightsWithAndyDay · 28/05/2017 19:47

robotic I was only mentioning family income as I'm a sahm. So in my case it is family income, should've been clearer sorry.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 28/05/2017 19:47

In reality for people on 80-100k it will be only be £400 extra per annum. So peanuts to a big earner.

The tiny minority on 500,000 plus will pay about 23k per annum. Which is peanuts to a big earner.

CormorantDevouringTime · 28/05/2017 19:48

Sorry, it's a grand not 500 quid. It's still nothing by comparison with tuition fees.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 28/05/2017 19:48

www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9229

ilovesooty · 28/05/2017 19:48

I'm rather amazed that someone earning that kind of salary and who presumably has quite a lot of responsibility at work needs to ask a bunch of random people how they're voting.

specialsubject · 28/05/2017 19:49

The mn playground jealousy really chucks the toys if someone else has more money than they do.

If you earn over £80k you must work some serious hours in a stressful job. Good luck to you.

Not me so can't answer the thread - still working out the least worst option.

Mistletoekids · 28/05/2017 19:49

Tory

CeCeBloomer · 28/05/2017 19:50

Lib dem - always have, have no issue paying extra tax but I do care where the additional expenditure goes.

howtovote · 28/05/2017 19:51

It's not a conversation I would necessarily have with people day to day as I'm aware it's a contentious issue.
That's why I'm interested to hear in opinions on here.
Like I said before it's not about the money, it's the fact that I don't think the worst off in society will be better off as a result of this tax increase.

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Sionella · 28/05/2017 19:51

if corbyn and his herd of shambolic dinosaurs get in..... good god, imagine him trying to negotiate anything. and if that doesn't terrify you, imagine diane sodding abbott as home secretary.

the first tax increase would absolutely be the tip of the iceberg as even that pair of clowns realised their maths didn't add up. soon it'd be back at labour's 90% tax rate. and then they'd wonder why it still wasn't raising enough and where all the businesses and high earners had gone. and then who'd pay for his 1970's utopia?!

Jaxhog · 28/05/2017 19:53

Conservative. JC is an idiot who couldn't lead a ant march out of a paper bag.

I also support the proposed social care changes. Why should young workers pay for my care in retirement?

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