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AIBU?

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To feel utterly enraged that my children & myself have not been mentioned in my in-laws will

274 replies

ThespianTendencies · 24/05/2017 21:38

OK, bit of background. Was married for 18 years, husband was a controlling, bullying (functioning) alcoholic. WE had two children - he died 7 yrs ago as a result of a stupor during which he fell and sustained a fatal head injury leaving me with our two children - then aged 3 and 12. Our life was far from idyllic - in fact at times it was hell on earth and I got little or no support from his family as they were in denial. All through the awful trauma and grief of his death I maintained contact and have done up until both of their deaths; my Mother in law died in March this year. I made sure we always visited - my children had a lovely relationship with them both, as did I - albeit at a distance as they lived some miles away and it was often difficult with school and such like to get to see them. When dh died I moved home with my children to be near my family. My FIL visited us twice and my MIL never, she is afraid of motorways and fast driving. I made sure we visited when we could and called every 1-2 weeks. They had a daughter, my sis in law. She ran away with their married neighbour causing chaos, she got married abroad without inviting them. She never had children and was prone to shutting herself off form them (her parents) when she felt the need. it transpires that she is the only named beneficiary in the will and was verbally told by her Mum to 'help us out' now and then. I am so fuming and upset about this. I cannot believe that they would not name us - well my children in particular. They lost their Dad, their Grandad (both Grandads actually) and their Nana and now they have not even been left with a single penny other than that my SIL chooses to give us!!! AIBU??? I never remarried, never traumatised the children further than they already had been. I maintained contact wth the in-laws, for all the right reasons and they (and me) have been totally omitted.

OP posts:
DeadGood · 25/05/2017 13:13

"o be fair, my mil, who is very very close to my hubby and children has it set up so it goes to my hubby. If he has died before her it goes half to his siblings and half to our children and that's a Nana thats very very close."

To be fair looney I think the OP would be perfectly happy with that situation.
As it stands, her children have to suffer the bereavement of their father and then be doubly punished by being left out of the will.

Waltermittythesequel · 25/05/2017 13:16

The OP actually seems just as upset about her not getting anything, as the kids. Which is bizarre to me.

Redredredrose · 25/05/2017 13:18

With very good cause. The daughter in law could remarry and then predecease her second husband.

That is part of his reason. The other is that she has two other children, and while he cares about them, they both still have their father to inherit from and to look after them.

Fliptophead · 25/05/2017 13:19

That's the way the cookie crumbles. You sound very greedy and grabby.

Seven years of being nice to inlaws who aren't helping you out for a bit of cash l, you think that sounds grabby?op is playing the long game if she was after money.

Anyway yanbu op

Blimey01 · 25/05/2017 13:27

Yanbu op. I would have thought leaving their son's half to your children would have been fair considering the circumstances however there's nothing you can do about it so you will have to just move on. I wouldn't expect or accept anything from Sil though.

TakeMe2Insanity · 25/05/2017 13:34

It is sad for your children that they chose not to include them in the will but don't dwell on it. If you like SIL spend time with her but to spend time with her in anticipation of her giving/leaving something is the same mistake twice.

Fliptophead · 25/05/2017 13:37

I also think if I had money (which I don't annoyingly) that if I had grandchildren whose father passed away that I'd want to help make up hat shortfall before I passed away and make a provision for after

Pallisers · 25/05/2017 14:00

It doesn't sound like they 'adored their grandchildren' as the OP suggests....smile

Is that supposed to make the OP feel better? "you didn't get anything and they actually didn't like your children very much ha ha"

Although this is probably why the OP is so enraged. It is hard not to think that the grandparents didn't actually love their grandchildren that much. And that wouldn't make me smile - it would make me sad and angry. Like most people - including the OP no doubt - I think my children are lovable and lovely and presume their own grandparents will love them.

Neutrogena · 25/05/2017 14:15

It's more of a smile to accept things haven't been how OP imagined it, and that OP may have been wrong as to how much the grandparents loved their children.

I don't think a mumsnet talk thread is the best way to go if you only want people to say things to make you feel better.
It's Talk, and people have different opinions.
There are many replies suggesting the OP is greedy etc, so opinions vary, and not all people support the OPs postings.

Newmanwannabe · 25/05/2017 14:18

I think their fathers share should have gone to your children

indigox · 25/05/2017 14:27

YABU to suggest remarrying would traumatise a child.

CormorantDevouringTime · 25/05/2017 14:29

People are talking as if the GM has ignored the DC's claim but she clearly hasn't. MN's culture is always to do things properly and officially with the money left in trust until the children's 21st birthday and two independent trustees (and that's the way I'd go too). But depending on the amount at stake, it's understandable that the GM might think it simpler to trust her daughter to do the right thing by daughter's only living blood relatives. And on the evidence to date, that is what the SIL intends to do. If she wasn't going to give the children any money when the required it (e.g. For university) then why on earth would she have mentioned her mother's request?

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 25/05/2017 14:40

Cormorant But that is exactly why there should have been honest conversations though.

"Helping out a bit" could mean giving both kids a house deposit when they turn 25 or it could mean giving a student a tenner every term as beer money. And no one knows which (and even if the SIzl does one or the other they don't know if that is what MIL intended.

There are possible good reasons why ILs have done what they have done (not least that having had a child who is an alcoholic anyone would be nervous ablout giving a large sum to a 19 year old). But the Op doesn't know what they are! So is now wondering whether the grandparents cared about the kids as much as she thought they did.

Which is a pretty miserable legacy to leave behind no matter how much cash there is or isn't.

Gillian1980 · 25/05/2017 14:44

Sorry, yabu.

Never expect or assume anything from anybody's will.

I would never expect anything from my MIL will. If she were to leave my dc anything it would be an unexpected but appreciated gesture. But I wouldn't ever expect it.

I know my df's will is to leave everything 50/50 to my and my sibling. If I were to die I wouldn't expect anything to go to my dh or dc.... if it did it would be appreciated but never assumed or expected.

DeadGood · 25/05/2017 15:15

"Sorry, yabu.

Never expect or assume anything from anybody's will...
I know my df's will is to leave everything 50/50 to my and my sibling. If I were to die I wouldn't expect anything to go to my dh or dc.... if it did it would be appreciated but never assumed or expected."

Jesus Christ Gillian. Can you even see how hypocritical your post is?

Very easy to airily declare not to "expect anything" from a parent's will... when you know full well that you are a beneficiary of your parent's will.

I'm sorry, but these people should have made provision for the children of their deceased child. That is the norm and it's weird to pretend otherwise.

JanetBrown2015 · 25/05/2017 15:36

Some wills say if the child dies then the grandchild inherits. Mine says that. However it is up to the person with the money to decide.

Unless these children were being supported by the grandparents (they were not) then there is no legal right to challenge this either.

So just go out there and earn your own money like the rest of us do!

BouncyFlouncy · 25/05/2017 16:01

Not sure if anyone else has pointed this out (have read most posts but not all) - who is to say that had the son been alive he would have been left anything anyway? He may have not been included due to his behavior and the very likely possibility he would just piss the money up the wall on drink anyway. MIL did what she did. It's not your place to question it OP, sad for the children yes, but not the great scandal you'remaking it out to be.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 25/05/2017 16:01

Janet On the grounds that she has been a widow for the last seven years I suspect she already does!

hollyisalovelyname · 25/05/2017 16:17

OP
I agree with you.
You were a dutiful daughter in law. Their son had not done them proud in his behaviour- sadly that is often the case with alcoholics. You were left to bring up the children alone because of his drunken fall.
Their daughter did not enhance their life yet she gets everything.
Words fail me- how can these parents in law not have made provision for their 'beloved' grandchildren ?
Life can be a total unfair b*t•h !!!

supermoon100 · 25/05/2017 16:19

Yadnbu op. The one thing they could have done was look after their sons widow and grand children.

Aroundtheworldandback · 25/05/2017 16:44

Sorry but Mil asking Sil to "look after" your kids suggests to me that she did not trust YOU or want you to befefit from the estate in any way. But why she didn't set up a trust for them making sil executor, I don't understand.

As others have correctly pointed out though, most people leave their estate to their children. And perhaps she had an incling that you were making an effort to sustain the relationship for the wrong reasons. (I am not saying this is the case).

I am very sure in my mind that my OWN parents, never mind someone else's, are at liberty to leave their money to whomever they like. My love for them is totally separate.

MarciaBlaine · 25/05/2017 16:51

Hmm. My parent died and when my grandma was alive the GPs will left me their share on an equal footing with my 2 uncles. My GF changed the will after she died so the remaining 2 sons get a 3rd each and the rest is shared between ALL the GC. His didn't want them to wait til THEIR parents died to inherit something. I was quite miffed as I have no chance of inheriting from my parent whereas the other GC do. It is a bit upsetting - like my parent never existed almost. However, I will suck it up and understand it doesn't come from ill intentions on his part. It is horrible, and I feel for you OP.

DeadGood · 25/05/2017 17:21

"So just go out there and earn your own money like the rest of us do!"

It's the injustice. The OP is not claiming to be on the breadline due to this. It is just a shit thing to have happened.

PainCanBeBeautiful · 25/05/2017 20:11

Can someone honestly tell me why they think that being a decent person should warrant a financial reward when the someone they were decent to dies?

I just don't think the op needs the money and tbh the way she talks about his family she clearly doesn't like them so I will ask again, if you don't like someone why do you expect money from them when they have one surviving child and left all that they have to them. They were decent enough to say to help your kids out yet somehow people are conveniently missing that bit out. Hmm

Fliptophead · 25/05/2017 22:25

pomcanbeveautiful

Yes, I think the grandchildren should have inherited and that grandparents who have money and a feckless son that's left their grandchildren high and dry should want to help them out. Explain to me why you think that's wrong? It's not for the mother it's for the mother to support her child. Like maintenance

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