To tell you all that the Manchester Evening News are crowdfunding for the victims and families *title edited by MNHQ*

[Sionella]

Link here in case anyone wants to donate:

www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/westandtogethermanchester

The money will go to people who need it - for what ever they need - funerals, new artificial limbs (better than the basic NHS ones maybe), rehabilitation support (you know hotel bills for families who's kids are in hospital miles away from home), paying for lost wages for time off looking after your traumatised and injured family members, counselling, a memorial, what ever people need

if you don't get that no one if forcing you to donate

Its entirely up to you what you do with your donation but do you really think that more of you £10/£20/£100 will get to the families via the hospital than via a fundraising platform?

I would love to see the pie chart explaining the percentage of your donation that gets past the (necessary) administration costs.

Ok everyone. Calm down with your awful nasty judgement. I have actually been in contact with the MEN today and they arent actually dealing with the money themselves.

They are currently in talks with Manchester Council and victim support. They will be the official distributors of donations, through an officially registered charity and will distribute funds sensitively and effectively - according to the needs of each bereaved/injured person.

No I don't work there, I have no affiliation with them, I just took a minute out of my day to find out what was going on rather than bitch moan and assume things I knew nothing about.

You are all so horribly cynical on here. Shame on you.

find out what was going on rather than bitch moan and assume things I knew nothing about.

If there were no posters bitching & moaning about things they no nothing about mn would be a wasteland.

People really don't understand why the injured & bereaved might be in desperate need of financial support after an event like this?

Fuck me this place is a cesspit sometimes.

The Ronald macdonald provides accomadation for parents of children in hospital (for free I think). IT means parents doesn't't have to pay for expensive hotels, or worry where they going to stay. Fab charity.

Apologies, i was wrong.

Sionella, your post resonated most with me, thank you.

I never meant to offend, MrsDV I have always had the greatest of respect for your posts and know what you went through.

I suppose the point i was trying to make is that when my father was killed in an accident, when my 2year old brother died, when my 3 year old sister lingered and died with leukemia, the grief, the emotional and financial costs were the same. We had, and expected, no help. People, young and old die every day and every one is a tragedy.

I understand the need to help, and sincerely apologise if I have offended.

They do 228 but their facilities are limited. Rooms have to be booked and they are not always available even when there isn't an emergency.
I don't know how big the one is in Manchester but I doubt all of the families involved in this attack will be using the house.

So its understandable that people might want to give direct.

Some of the people are in Wythenshawe, there's no MacDonald house there.

Constantlurker thanks for finding out and sharing that information. I've donated and shared.

Bumped up

A member of my family lost someone in a massive incident some years ago and many groups raised money in this sort of way. All the money came to the families involved and was useful to them in so many ways. They didn't use it for a funeral as that had been done before they got the money but it just let them breathe a little easier. They were able to take their children on holiday and put some money aside for when things became difficult and they struggled to work for a while. It can really help. Give if you want to but if you don't that is fine too. All I ask is that you don't doubt the motives of those who have set up this fund. People have big hearts and not everything in the world is a scam.

The fact is that someone would have set up a fund or funds and some of those people would have been well meaning but inept or downright dishonest.
MEN have done the right thing by taking on this important task. They have the resources to make sure its monitored and they are a well known institution so people will trust them.

This is so much better than lots of little funds set up by people who many not have anything to do with the victims and no knowledge of ethical fundraising and distribution

I really can't see the issue.

You only have to read through some of the comments to see how big people's hearts are. And boohoo, which has its head office close to the Arena, donated £100,000, which I think is fab.

There is also a separate page which aimed to raise £300 for the homeless man who helped - currently at £27,000

Light in the darkness; look for the helpers.

I am so pleased that the homeless man is being helped. He hugged a woman when she was dying so she wouldn't be alone when she passed away. He removed shrapnel from children's bodies.

The Sun also have a crowdfunding page, and have kicked it off with a £100,000 donation.

Asda has been sending boxes and boxes of food and drink to the hospitals for the victims, their families and the care workers.

""The Ronald macdonald provides accomadation for parents of children in hospital (for free I think).""

Some of the children were transported to Alderhey by helicopters,last night (they flew over my house). RMH at AH struggles to meet the needs of the families, I've met Families in the local restaurants/pubs with accommodation attached because there was no room.

There's been enough raised just by individual Crowdfunding for funerals, but now Ariana Grande has said that she will pay for the funerals.

I think some people just want it to be probably coordinated so people who've been affected don't miss out.

For many of the adults there'll be a wait for sick pay to kick in and then with the new system many won't get disability benefits, if they've got more than three children and it's a claim for tax credits, they won't get it for all of the children etc.

So there should be different funds to cover hardship, not just counselling/injury.

As for the Sun, they've had to do what they did because Manchester wants them boycotted because they didn't mention the bombing in the first published papers, they just rubbished Corbyn on the front page.

£1,100,000 now. Amazing.

96 people died at Hillsborough and the Sun fucked them over. At least this time the Sun haven't tried to blame the concertgoers

Yes its amazing.

An easy choice to donate to this.

In terms of administration:

"The money raised by the Manchester Evening News and its readers will be administered by the British Red Cross, who are offering support to affected families."

So the money will be given to the BRC to distribute. Seems as good a way as any to me.

Yes, a very sensible solution.

I think its very moving that Ariana Grande wants to pay for the funerals.