to think it's finally time England deals with its Katy Hopkins problem?

[Fliptophead]

I know she feeds off publicity and the best thing really would be to ignore her until she shrivels and dies of fame starvation so I apologise for the thread but this is really too much now isn't it?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-bombing-katie-hopkins-final-solution-muslims-arena-terror-attack-phillip-schofield-a7750656.html

Yes it was. You were told about it on the first page of your thread and admitted you must have missed it. But I'm the one misrepresenting it!

HQ, if you are deleting posts, shouldn't you be doing something with the sick fuck that said this:
I think if there was a riot in Manchester this afternoon and 22 Muslims were killed half of you would be rubbing your hands in glee because you felt morally vindicated. But as usual it won't happen, sorry to disappoint you

??

Their aim every time this happens is to distract people from the dead bodies and convince the public that the real danger is to Muslims

I just do not understand this, nor do I recognise this as something that happens. Apart from anthing else, this kind of indiscriminate bombing endangers everybody.

Make that 3 ambulances.

I agree littlemissangrypants. It's chilling.

*Their aim every time this happens is to distract people from the dead bodies and convince the public that the real danger is to Muslims

I just do not understand this, nor do I recognise this as something that happens. Apart from anthing else, this kind of indiscriminate bombing endangers everybody.*

It doesn't happen, at least not in the way Bill describes it.

What happens is that when things start to stray away from the narrative of "evil insert scapegoat group of the moment here people killed people, let's hate them and punish them to "Wait a second, but why did they do that? or Why are we blaming every insert scapegoat group of the moment here* for the actions of the minority? Then people who are happy to simplistically blame scapegoat group of the moment and get on with their blinkered existence hating people get upset and start trying to blame the people who ask the question for asking the question and "distracting" them from their blind hatred/anger.

Because if we ACTUALLY started to look into things we might realize that we're all partially to blame for this for a variety of very difficult to solve reasons. Because solving the problem is hard, hating people is easy.

Does that make sense?

Crazy you can also make things too complicated though.

Those to blame for this are the murderer(s) and those who encourage and fund them. We are not all partially to blame.

Pick a chew why has your post been deleted?

Those to blame for this are the murderer(s) and those who encourage and fund them. We are not all partially to blame.

I mean we're all partially to blame in a very widespread, collective, sense. Our governments have funded wars that have led to the growth of these groups and to the fear and hatred that their followers feel. "We've" allowed racism, bigotry and segregation to go unchecked, which is how people like Trump get in and Katy Hopkins gets a soap box to scream from.

And if the collective we wants to fix this than the collective us needs to really look at the policies of the people we're voting in and talk about these things so we can see a way forward.

I just don't understand how the people defending KH have the time surely by taking the time to argue for racism that mean she they're incapable of being upset about what happened right? Look how much effort some of you will make to defend the indefensible but hypocritically think we shouldn't be upset about allusions to murdering people? Look at yourselves.

I didn't even mention any names.

Maybe we can agree that we also need to look at the influencers, the Anjem Choudary types that successive governments have allowed to flourish.

What on earth?? Why is pick being deleted? Her last post was completely inoffensive and I didn't see this one

Didn't Pick just ask whether all ambulances in the uk should be going off to Manchester to help? or something along those lines.

Sounds about right to me. There may have been a tone of sarcasm but no more than anyone else
Unless it was assumed that mavis who'd fallen over was an actual person

I think people are understandably jumpy today and there'll be a fair bit of acting to be on the safe side.

maybe mavis is on mn?

x-post nauticant, you are right of course, just such an odd one to vanish.
I think it must have been an accidental deletion.

Very, very well said CrazyExIngenue.

Littlemisscrazypants. You made a point that I was trying to make, only you made it far more eloquently.

The last thing we need in response to a hate-based attack, is a hate-based columnist in a right-wing tabloid, calling for a final solution. But sadly, as long as people buy that rag and other right-wing publications, this whipping up of Islamophobia, some gleeful editor is going to pay KH for offering her vile utterings.

The generations of Germans' subsequent to Hitler's time, are still having to show the rest of the world they have changed. It's totally unfair that a whole nation has been tarnished as a result of Nazism. Just as unfair as all Muslims having to somehow show they are not extremist nutjobs. Hopkins knew exactly what the Final Solution was. She is one toxic, inflammatory woman. She should be arrested for hate crimes after this. Seriously has crossed a massive boundary now.

I'm not convinced that she should be arrested.

But if her employers had any decency now would be a good time to end their support of her. Also, twitter could decide that it would be best for their platform not to be used by her to disseminate hate speech and to close her account.

Problem is nauticant I don't think the mail have any decency. She ups their readership numbers and as long as she does that I think she will keep getting the commission's.