To be irrationally annoyed by people with lots of DCs

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I know IABU really.

And that it's irrational, mostly groundless and a bit unfair.

But it really annoys me!

Any other irrational annoyances out there? I have tonnes more

I think it's highly unlikely Alice.

No benefits when I was growing up. I think my four siblings and me have paid enough tax between us to cover the CB my mum recieved.

I think perhaps you need a hobby or something.

You said there's no way. You were wrong.

I try to think- six more future tax payers for my old age. A little bit of me thinks, no wonder our actually struggling with class sizes, no wonder we struggle to get a doctor's appointment. I try to assume that the family in question are not "benefit scroungers". But we can barely afford two so how the hell can they afford 6. And no we don't drive a 4x4 or whatever other nonsense cliche a pp came up with .

Jumping to conclusions. I never said she was on her own, or I never said what type of nurse she was ;).

Funny that you immediately say "no way could she support 8 kids on 72k!!" Who said anything about her wages either, I'm not even in the UK and either is she. She and her husband live in a 6 bedroom house so they must be doing fine.

I think when it happens, they make it work, radishal. my parents didn't want so many of us, but no access to birth control in Ireland then. They made it work. Tough, yes, but it worked. We wore lots of hand me downs, admittedly.

I try to think- ... more future tax payers for my old age. A little bit of me thinks, no wonder our actually struggling with class sizes, no wonder we struggle to get a doctor's appointment.

In general terms, I think this is the heart of the debate. It's not about individual families - and of course we need future tax payers - but about the cumulative effects. How much of the country are we willing to concrete over, to build enough homes?

Yabu, definitely. I was desperate for children and my ex of 7 years couldn't have any, I thought I'd never have children. Since I met my now husband we've had 2 sons together aged 1 and 2 and his two daughters (6 and 8) from previous relationship were removed from their mother and placed with us full time just over a year ago so I've gone from having no children to 4. It's really hard work but I wouldn't change it for the world. People should just mind their own business and keep their opinions to themselves.

Well, yeah, when people say someone isn't in the UK benefit system you do assume the UK :)

Alice pull the other one, the overwhelming majority of nurses never see £72,000 p/a. That's not being patronising it's just how it is.

No - you didn't say "it's unlikely" you said "there's no way". I haven't said anything about a majority earning that much. Calling a poster "sugar" was patronising. And you were wrong.

I'm the very proud mother of 5....proud because when you look at us more closely i'm the adoptive mother to 4 of them
we adore them all - and whether we had adopted them or not, they would have been on this planet making an environmental impact

we have been assessed by social services to have the time, finances and love each and every one of them needs....
as i type one LO is in bed fast asleep, one is out at youth club, baby is rolling around the bed next to me soon to go off to sleep, and dh is watching a film with the middle 2....they are all happy and accounted for!

it is completely irrational to be annoyed to people with lots of DC! - and you never know the story behind them!

• People who drive Smart cars
• Nose blowing in public
• People who allow their kids to sit/stand in the main part of a shopping trolley

-Shop assistants who stop to look at your newspaper/magazine as they scan it -People who dont understand how box junctions work -Dribble bibs in colours that totally clash with the child's outfit looking at you, DP -Ridiculously small dogs -People who come to work ill and then spend the whole day moaning and passing their germs to everyone else -The phrase 'some things are meant to be' when used to justify something sad/negative looking at you, MiL

I guess I am not as tolerant as I thought I was

Gaelic - Irish descent here. Most of our Irish parents came from huge families for the reasons you refer to. My contemporaries- 60's kids, are from families of max 3 kids.
Yes, people manage but there is good reason why people go for a smaller families.

Her username is sugar you idiot

Oh, ha. Completely missed that.
You were still wrong though.

I only have six.

The trouble is that it's a discussion that goes nowhere as people justify having lots children in all sorts of ways, whereas almost the only genuine reason (with the odd exception, such as multiple births) is 'because I wanted lots of children'.

My irrational annoyance is people who can't do things - like chew, breathe, think - silently.

I don't think most GP appointments are taken by mothers with six children - on the whole we're not given to panicking about mouth ulcers, chicken pox, worms and tummy bugs.
The struggle with GP appointments is about not having enough GPs and young doctors choosing to move abroad rather than suffer the poor treatment they get under this government.
We have never had tax credits. We didn't claim child benefits. Just because some struggle to cope with one or two children doesn't mean we all do. Preconceptions are rarely an accurate reflection of reality.

And how lucky we are to not have to justify our choices to anyone

Okay, Alice. Since you're feeling very smug, to not qualify for any benefits at all, you'd need a salary above £50,000 which would mean working at band 8C, 8D or 9.

Even then tbh eight children would be difficult to support on that salary.

But yay! A tiny minority of nurses wouldn't qualify for benefits! You won! OMG!

For anyone interested:
www.populationmatters.org/

Disclaimer: This is not to suggest that I agree with OP re larger families.

Things that annoy me

Judgmental bastards who think that if you have a large family the older ones must be looking after the younger ones.

Judgmental bastards who think that having over 4 children means that they aren't getting the dedication they deserve.

Judgmental bastards who make sweeping assumptions about people with large families annoy me.

There is a huge difference between having 4/5/6 children and 22.

It's quite logical to think that having a large family isn't a good idea because we are over-populated. It's not logical to think all children from larger families are not getting the attention they need or that they are caring for their younger siblings.

Also - the current rate of "large families" means the birth rate is still only 1.8? And one or two children is acceptable. So my extra 4 just make up for those that have none or only one.

Are there any figures about large families being on the increase? I'd have thought they are declining.

Rufus gave you a link about that Alice.

Sorry I'm too busy raising my 536 children to be clicking about on external links