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to ask if any of the manifestos have changed your mind about who you will vote for?

239 replies

killerlego · 21/05/2017 14:35

For example, someone who would have voted Conservative but will now not or are on the fence because of what is contained in the Conservative manifesto (or Labour, Lib Dem manifesto etc).

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RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 21/05/2017 16:47

eminy

I seem to have given you the wrong impression

I am not voting tory, dh is not voting tory...but he may well change his mind and vote tory

I will not be voting tory and will not be changing mymind

Dh and i did not vote the same way the last general election

We did not vote the same way in the local election

We did not vote the same way in 2015

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 21/05/2017 16:48

I'm appalled by the greed that is coming to the fore against the Tory care proposals

I agree. In some cases by those that spout out about 'those with money' or 'the elite' all the time.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 21/05/2017 16:49

It's not the law that husband and wife must vote for the same parties

Not sure where i said that we were voring for the same party

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 21/05/2017 16:51

I cannot understand why people are not absolutely furious at what's being done to education and childcare in this country at the moment. Don't you all realise how poorly children are being served by this Government?

I am livid...which is why i am not voting tory

Bourdic · 21/05/2017 17:02

Medeci - you're making the assumption that the money to fund social care would come from income tax. there are many other ways to raise revenue e.g. increased IHT or some sort of tax on the increase in value on a house at death etc - the difference would be that it would apply across the board and not just those who needed care

brasty · 21/05/2017 17:16

I would rather be taxed on everything above £100k as an inheritance tax. This proposal will mean that if I or my DP needs paid carers at home, we will have a charge against our house and be unable to move. It is not just about money, it is about how it effects people while they are still alive.

LineysRun · 21/05/2017 17:23

No-one I know is now voting Tory - even the undecideds. We have a very nice personable candidate for another Party here.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 21/05/2017 17:52

No

Member of the Labour Party always voted Labour would never vote Labour while Corbyn is leading the party along with his shambles of a shadow cabinet (apart from a few)

This is difficult as the new labour candidate (old one left many believe becuase what has happened since Corbyn has taken over) I believe would be a good MP but my vote will also support Corbyn staying on as leader (he won't become PM) for longer and that prolongs the pain for the Tories to do as they please

It was a gamble what the Tories proposed but it's quite clear who they are targeting and they know even those Tory voters that are angered by their proposals are highly unlikely to vote labour and will probably still vote for the Conservatives

I will not vote Tory (I can't ever imagine voting Tory) or Labour this time and I may spoil my paper though don't feel comfortable doing that or LD's or an independent

JamieXeed74 · 21/05/2017 17:59

I didn't think I would vote Labour since the hard left Corbyn hijacked it, the manifesto clinched it. Will be May for me.

MyBeautifulSquid · 21/05/2017 18:11

I'm still voting Labour

My lifelong Tory voting parents are voting Labour too - the death tax has done it for them

Most of my friends of my age (30 - 40) have never voted. Most of them are voting now, And voting labour.

brieandcrackers · 21/05/2017 18:15

Was always going to vote Labour but the manifesto has cemented that - I agree with the vast majority of their pledges and appreciate how they've included costs (as that's what JC has been attacked for in the past).

A couple of friends who flit between Tories and Labour are voting Labour - they say they can't get behind TM's manifesto (esp. passionate about social care and animal welfare - they were horrified at her view on fox hunting) and mentioned how the Conservatives largely criticise Labour for financial reasons but then didn't cost many of their own pledges.

Our constituency has never had a non-Tory MP though so often wonder why we bother!!

PortiaCastis · 21/05/2017 18:15

My Mum (Dad is dead) has changed from Tory to Labour because of dementia tax

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 21/05/2017 18:21

Still planning on voting Conservative as is DH, I believe that the care plans are good, it's likely to reduce the inheritance we would get from parents and may well impact on the inheritance we can leave for DC but I don't see why the burden of care should fall on taxpayers when we have assets.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 21/05/2017 18:28

I bet Corbyn is kicking himself he didn't come up with such a proposal Grin

Brokenbiscuit · 21/05/2017 18:29

I would never dream of voting Tory, but I don't actually have a problem with the proposals for paying for social care. We will have to pay for it somehow, and the money isn't going to come from nowhere. Nobody has a "right" to inherit.

I'm also not averse to removing free school meals for infants, as I don't think wealthier families need these. However, instead of providing universal free breakfasts instead, I'd have preferred it if they had raised the threshold for FSM so that some of the so-called "just about managing" families could benefit, not only in Foundation/KS1 but in KS2 and beyond. Or perhaps they could have offered breakfast and lunch to those who needed it. Either way, families like mine do not need subsidised school meals!

bungle99 · 21/05/2017 18:32

I hadn't decided to vote for. However, the torys policy regarding elderly care and the fact that they can use house to fund social care is terrible. The filthy rich will be able to fund their care anyway. Anyone with little savings, a small pension (most of us in the middle) will have to pay for elderly care with most of our homes.
Meanwhile, they are providing more funding for more grammar schools. Surely this would be better spent on elderly care or funding for existing state schools ?
All of the above, especially the elderly care issue definately pushed me away from voting Tory.

bungle99 · 21/05/2017 18:36

I do agree with removing free school meals for everyone but keeping it for those on no/low income. I also agree with winter fuel allowance being taken away from everyone apart from those on low pension (who really need help). But the elderly care thing, I just can't get my head around that.

GloriousSlug · 21/05/2017 18:41

Tanith regarding the 1:13 ratio, is that being proposed for 2 year olds in school?

valeriej43 · 21/05/2017 18:44

Always voted Labour, would never vote Tory,and their manifesto would have put me off anyway breakfast instead of school dinners ,? dismantling the NHS cutting winter fuel payments, although i do agree that the very wealthy shouldnt get it,even the MPs get it, and the well off celebrities get it, but i believe some donate theirs to charities
The very first thing Cameron did was reduce winter fuel allowance by £50 for everyone
I am not keen on Corbyn, but like their manifesto better, i think a lot of young people might vote Labour because of the tuition fees ,which were hiked to £9000 by Cameron and Clegg, who said he would never do that,
I voted leave for Brexit, but i will still not vote Tory
Also the fox hunting ban repeal ,and now lifting the ban on ivory, more animals being killed
No, i will never vote Conservative
We need the NHS sorting out,or we will be losing Drs andnurses,
How many policemen and firemen and post offices have we lost though the Tories,and companies sold to China mainly

minionsrule · 21/05/2017 19:01

I was set on Conservatives but then the proposals on education have turned me the other way. DS's school have already contacted everyone to tell them exactly what the cuts mean to them including closing the sixth form (only non private one locally) and axing 10 staff at end of this academic year followed by more next year.

minionsrule · 21/05/2017 19:02

Sorry there is more impact to what I have included but too many to mention, these are the highlights (or low lights)

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 21/05/2017 19:08

It is from this weekend onwards that the real battling will start.

The pictures of McDonnell speaking in front of the Communist and Ba'ath flags a couple of weeks ago will be brought up.

The parties anti-semitism issues will be brought up.

Corbyn's 'friends' will be questioned.

The diseray in the party will be played on.

The Tory spin doctors haven't started yet.

As I have said the interview with Sophie Ridge is the start. He has one to get through with Andrew Neil next.

It will be relentless.

killerlego · 21/05/2017 19:23

Would this dementia tax be paid before or after paying inheritance tax? i.e would they still need to pay inheritance tax on the full value of their house even if they owed a huge chunk to social care?

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bertsdinner · 21/05/2017 19:25

Will still vote conservative, manifesto has not changed my mind though I dont agree with parts of it
Read Labour manifesto but not convinced, (though I like the bit about protection for bees/banning certain pesticides).
Didnt bother reading UKIP/Lib Dem manifestos.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 21/05/2017 19:25

I would imagine the 100k would be exempt.

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