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Holiday tension.... WWYD

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Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 04:16

Right, to set the scene: Me, my DH, DD, MIL and SFIL are here together on holiday. It is actually my in-laws house half way up a mountain in a warm corner of Europe. It has a pool and is pretty idyllic all round. However it is very remote, nothing around for about 30 min drive. No public transport. Dodgy mountainside roads that aren't safe to walk or cycle on. The In-laws have kindly paid for our flights and refuse to take any money for us staying here and eating their food (which they insist on cooking, and they are brilliant cooks). We're very very lucky.

However, the holiday does come with some T's and C's. It is very well-to-do, middle class, civilised etc. It is very pleasant but very... erm... 'controlled' I think is the right word. In fact, the theme of the holiday could well be 'Everything in moderation'. This is slightly at odds with my idea of a holiday which is more 'everything to excess' .... but I didn't pay for this holiday so I'm willing to go with the flow. This is our 5th-ish time out here as a couple/family.

As a background point, MIL has always monitored how much I eat. She literally raises her eyebrows if I go for second helpings because I'm overweight. It grinds me slightly, but is just a foible of hers and for the most part I ignore it and do my best to have some self control so as not to disgust her.

But anyway, here is the issue...

On day 3 after dinner, MIL stands up and states how she cannot understand why DH (my DH that is, not her DH) has to drink so much. She then turns to me and says I'm not much better. She is upset because DH's biological father is/was an alcoholic. She cannot stand people drinking to access. I agree that my alcohol tolerance has 'improved' lately and DH rolls his eyes and says 'I'm on holiday mum'. And that's that. Off she goes to bed. I didn't say more because I was totally stunned by the confrontation and I'm rubbish with thinking on the spot. Plus I had 3 gins inside me.

I must admit I was pretty annoyed at the accusation of drinking too much. I certainly wasn't drunk and the gin I was drinking was bought by us at the airport. Plus I'm nearly 40, so im really not accustomed to somebody monitoring my alcohol consumption. I had a good old rant to my friend via text and decided I'd continue the holiday booze-free so as not to cause any more upset.

The thing is, my only experience of family holidays (pre-meeting my DH) is to spend all day in the pool messing about, eating whatever we like and drinking from about 4/5pm. No rules. Just having a laugh. I appreciate not all families are like this, but this is my default setting for a holiday if you will. So it is an adjustment for me to be so controlled on holiday. But I'm trying to remind myself.... it's a free holiday, it's a free holiday, it's a free holiday.... and just be greatful.

Yesterday DH, who seems to have fully regressed into a teenager rebillion mode, gets completely shit faced, singing football (?!) chants whilst mooning and dancing around the pool drunk. Eyebrows are raised. MIL is not impressed. We go out for dinner (against my advice) and whilst he goes to the loo MIL asks me why he decided to get so drunk. I explain I'm not sure why, but I think it's an act of defiance. "How very childish" is the response.... and I have to agree.

The atmosphere now is terrible. MIL and DH basically are at loggerheads. DH is in a terrible mood and is not at all fun to be around. Our DD is always a heartbeat away from a tantrum (she's 2) and how I 'parent' her is constantly being watched and critiqued. I just literally can't relax now, and there are 5 days to go. I plan to keep my head down and stay out of the way as much as I can until we go home. But I'm interested to hear... WWYD?

OP posts:
MiniCooperLover · 17/05/2017 21:23

Did you even know Cornwall was an option or were you just informed? You need to learn how to say no. So they're drinking alcohol tonight but you've both been told you can't?

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 21:23

Don't go on that Cornish holiday, it'll be hell with her monitoring you both.

'We don't think it's a good idea after the last one' it's true and she can't deny that.

RoseandVioletCreams · 17/05/2017 21:23

Even if she has in the past, perhaps she could do with some more, because her behaviour and her mistrust will drive her son away and she will be lucky to see her grandchild at all. All the controlling behaviour and treating her son as if he is still a teenager isn't on

YY

and YY Expat, Op your in control of what you do. As is your DH you choose to go there - and hopefully you will choose not to go next time. You choose whether to go to cornwall.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 21:24

...and have a ginGin

RoseandVioletCreams · 17/05/2017 21:24

So they're drinking alcohol tonight but you've both been told you can't?

^^ Yes indeed - shows lots of worry about her son.

sheepskinshrug · 17/05/2017 21:25

You Mil insists that your dh doesn't drink anymore because she finds his drinking upsetting and then she proceeds to drink at dinner time and then offer you water. She is unbelievable! And she's winning because you two are behaving like kids. You have to stop this, because she will get worse and she'll be harder to stop. I hope she doesn't live nearby.

diddl · 17/05/2017 21:34

There's no need to think of excuses-this holiday didn't work & there's no need to do it again!

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 21:36

Ok.... I'm trying to picture myself saying that we won't be able to come to Cornwall.. and.... nope! I can't do it.

And I actually feel like a naughty child that has been grounded! Yep. I've also regressed to teenager mode myself. The only difference being, i'm a good girl. DH is currently being a good boy too. He ended up running 10k today, just to stay out of the way. He's adopting the 'health spa' approach to our indulgence/alcohol free holiday!

So ok ok, I'm too bloody weak/worried/tired to stand my ground. But I'm happy with the idea that I'm going to keep my head down because I want to avoid confrontation and keep the peace. And if that's the case, I should probably stop moaning about my situation here.

Just tried to picture this holiday with my family, and we'd all be sat together in the evenings, playing cards with nibbles in the go, Dad trying to sneakily turn up the music when mum isn't looking. Some of the older kids still awake because, who cares, we're on holiday and they can always lie in or nap tomorrow, playdoh colours getting mixed together with wild abandon. Maybe even a gin that has been poured without the use of a 50ml measuring glass....

But for now, I'm being a spineless twat staying out of trouble.

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I17neednumbers · 17/05/2017 21:37

sheepskin dmil lives half way up a mountain so I think she doesn't live close by.

Op, you and your dh can make your own decisions about where to go on hol - that suits you and your dd. If you want to go to the Cornwall cottage do - but why would you go just to keep the peace? Holiday is precious!

Also, do you mean June 2017? It's already the middle of May!

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 21:40

They have drunk a cocktail, red wine and what looks like port.

On the bright side, my urine is really light in colour so I must be well hydrated.

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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 21:41

Please find your backbone because she's got the pair of you right where she wants you.

I17neednumbers · 17/05/2017 21:41

"I want to avoid confrontation and keep the peace."

How does dh think about it? If you have to go on holiday to keep the peace, will that be the same every year?

I know it can be really really difficult to say no. It is useful to recognise that, and somehow knowing why it is difficult makes it easier. Nobody likes to say 'no' to something someone else wants.
One trick is to decide on your response "unfortunately we can't do that" and repeat ad infinitum - no further discussion. (I am particularly ruthless about holidays, as they are so rare!)

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 21:43

Yes June '17. Booked about 3 months ago.

And they live in the UK half of the time, quite close by.......

Oh dear god help me!!!!!

Can anyone send a drone to my window with a massive pizza and some gin?

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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 21:43

I wonder if the anti boozers will come along to tut at MiL's alcohol consumption Hmm

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 21:44

Have a gin if you want one, don't be cowed by her.

I17neednumbers · 17/05/2017 21:46

Ah, ok, so the half way up a mountain is not the permanent home.

Op, up to you whether you go to Cornwall next month, but as a general rule it is possible to say 'no', give weight to what you want to do, and yet still have a good relationship with dparents.

sheepskinshrug · 17/05/2017 21:46

I thought Mil's holiday home was half way up a mountain! Life is too precious to allow someone else control of it. Have you been given a bedtime to stick to?

RB68 · 17/05/2017 21:48

If you treat adults like children then don't be suprised when that is the behaviour it incites - MIL is unreasonably controlling. At the point of forbidding others drinks I would have said whats good for the goose and removed wine from the table. Two can play at the "I am worried about you game"

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 21:50

I17neednumbers i know I should confront the Cornwall holiday head on, but Im too worried about upsetting MIL I know she's massively controlling but she's also quite sensitive, and I think her concern around alcohol is reasonable. But will grow a backbone for when they suggest another holiday when we will follow your advice. Although I suspect we wont be invited again after this!!!!

Actually.... maybe they'll cancel Cornwall.

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Huldra · 17/05/2017 21:52

50 ml you glutton!! It should be 25 don't you know. 50! I've never heard of such things Grin

That's the type of holiday I have with my inlaws, no one cares that much. They're not loud drunken oafs or anything but happy to have a drink or two. If someone does drink too much one night they will laugh and make a fry up. Consequently the atmosphere is always relaxed and the worse people get is a bit silly and giggly.

As I said earlier in the thread my mum has a problem with drinking. Apparently her own Dad used to be a drinker but I don't know how bad. Still she used to drink herself before health issues and offered us wine at home when we were older teens. I grew up with wine being around and drunk casually and within normal limits. I often think she uses alcohol consumption as the nearest stick to hand when she's annoyed about something.

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 21:53

They are residents both here and the UK, 50/50 split. This is their house so the 'my roof my rules' thing still apples for them here which is fair enough.

Cornwall would be different I guess if they allow us to pay our share.

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Huldra · 17/05/2017 21:54

Drink Gin everynight and maybe they will cancel Cornwall.

ShoesHaveSouls · 17/05/2017 21:55

Bloody awful that they're quaffing cocktails and fine wine in front of you, while you're drinking water OP! I really feel for you. May the next five days pass swiftly for you....

Sneak a G&T to bed. Smile But remember to rinse the glass. Mind you, might she insist on some sort of breathalyser ?? only half joking

Huldra · 17/05/2017 21:58

Get to a supermarket and buy another bottle of gin and keep it wrapped up in your suitcase, then you can have a sneaky glass at bed. Unless she's also likely to go through your underwear and fold it.

sheepskinshrug · 17/05/2017 21:58

I think your mil is playing you. Massively controlling, overly critical and then terribly fragile when confronted - you are being manipulated.

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