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To think Theresa May looks rattled

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WhoIsRonniePickering · 15/05/2017 22:37

I watched the interview she gave on BBC News. She looked nervous and shaky. Do you think she's now thinking she's made a massive mistake and misjudged the Corbyn juggernaut? She looked like she was thinking "fcccccccccccccck."

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NoLotteryWinYet · 17/05/2017 18:37

I'm sick of referenda - so divisive. Imagine the horror of the Brexiters if it was overturned on a second referendum. I don't think we can persuade a comfortable margin to change their mind until it's clear it is a total disaster, unfortunately.

patheticpanic · 17/05/2017 18:44

She didn't look too happy when the woman told her about the effect that benefit cuts is having & how she's struggling without DLA. Not nice to be faced with the reality of how her party's cut-backs are affecting real people.

She probably didn't look happy because she was wondering how many votes she would lose as a result.

SenseiWoo · 17/05/2017 18:52

Tresemme (as she is known in our house) was described by Marina Hyde as 'controlling, insecure and brittle', which I actually think is about right.

Comrade Corbyn is getting a hard time on policies but actually, a very easy on ride on his treatment of his MPs and party-he could give Beria a run for his money.

Fallon isn't getting any attention at all, sadly.

lasttimeround · 17/05/2017 19:04

Juggernaut. What election are you watching

Downtheroadfirstonleft · 17/05/2017 21:49

Loving the idea of a Corbyn juggernaut.

It would either be electric, or run on free trade, artisan soya oil and would be speed limited to 5mph so that there was a union job for the man walking in front of it, carrying a warning (red) flag.

Sorrry, I've had too much coffee. As you were...

Valentine2 · 17/05/2017 21:57

She always looks shifty. I nearly died laughing on that bit of her interview where she turned up with her Brexit Profiteer of a husband and told us how her shoes made some woman enter into politics apparently. 😹 DH had this look on his face and absolutely lost for words. Poor man couldn't even laugh. Grin

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WhoIsRonniePickering · 17/05/2017 21:59

OP here - didn't want you to think I was going to post and run!

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SeaWitchly · 17/05/2017 22:00

Yeah, calling Labour / Corbyn supporters 'rabid' is very respectful.
As is name calling of 'loony left', 'swivel eyed loons', 'commies'...

Imo it is often a case of pot calling the kettle black with Tory supporters on social media.

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WhoIsRonniePickering · 17/05/2017 22:02

valentine2 was it Theresa May who, many years ago, was accused of wearing fuck me shoes? Or was that someone else?

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 17/05/2017 22:04

Yeah, calling Labour / Corbyn supporters 'rabid' is very respectful.

Oh come of it. No 'side' can take the moral high ground when it comes to name calling.

Corbyn may say he doesn't do insults. Some of his supporters certainly make up for it.

SeaWitchly · 17/05/2017 22:12

That's right Piglet, no side can take the moral high ground.

But we have had a PP on this thread who said -
What's more, her supporters tend to be afraid to come out publicly, because they will be bashed and berated and mocked by the left wing Corbyn supporters. The left after all, cannot BEAR it when people don't agree with them. Some of them are literally rabid.

This is the hypocricy I was referring to. I would be a multi millionaire if I had a pound for every poster on social media, Mumsnet and others, who referred to those on the left as loony, commie, etc. And now 'literally rabid' as well Hmm

BMW6 · 17/05/2017 22:17

Ah but you never, ever get called Evil, Scum and Cunt do you.

SeaWitchly · 17/05/2017 22:19

Anyway, there is obviously no reason at all for Conservative voters to stir themselves to travel to their nearest voting station on June 8th...

Take it easy, the Tories have this in the bag. You might as well not bother to vote. Put your feet up and rest assured that you will wake to a massive Tory majority on the 9th...

Grin
SeaWitchly · 17/05/2017 22:21

Personally, no, I have never been called evil, scum or cunt.
Nor have I ever used those words to abuse another poster.
I am sorry if you have been the victim of abuse like this.

Ethylred · 17/05/2017 22:25

Completely rattled by the dawning realization that she's going to be PM during Brexit and doesn't have a clue what to do.

Jupitar · 17/05/2017 22:45

Conservatives will win because there's too many people who will vote for them regardless of who the leader is or what their policies are, just simply because they've voted conservatives all their lives and would vote for a donkey if it had a blue rosette on.

We have the most concentrated media of any country, it's all owned by the same few billionaires who tell the public how to vote whilst living abroad and not paying a penny in tax in this country.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 17/05/2017 22:57

Conservatives will win because there's too many people who will vote for them regardless of who the leader is or what their policies are, just simply because they've voted conservatives all their lives and would vote for a donkey if it had a blue rosette on.

Core voters yes. The same for core Labour voters. Always has been..

Valentine2 · 17/05/2017 23:01

Corbyn may say he doesn't do insults. Some of his supporters certainly make up for it.
But that's not the same thing as May doing insults, right Pooh? So why are you trying to make it look like that the way May talks (read sneer/jeer and all that highly inappropriate and sometimes downright 1950s jokes/language) is comparable to what Corbyn talks like? FWIW, people get kicked out of work if they talk like May in workplace. But then it's just politics and just the future of a nation so no problem. Isn't it?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 17/05/2017 23:18

Not trying to say anything.

I am also not so blinkered that I can't see that politicians and supporters from all sides can be vile.

But hey I'm not so partisan that I can't see it.

Peregrina · 17/05/2017 23:20

She should have asked why Cathy feels the government aren't supporting disabled people and what she thinks should be changed. She should have said she was sorry to hear Cathy was unhappy with the system, agreed that it must be very difficult to manage on £100 a month and promised to put her in touch with one of her junior health ministers to discuss it further.

Sorry, I am late to this thread, so hence cutting and pasting from a few pages back.

You mention putting Cathy in touch with a Junior Health Minister. Do you realise that the blond haired woman to the left of Theresa May, nodding in unison with her, is a junior minister of health? Namely, one Nicola Blackwood, Tory MP for Oxford West and Abingdon. An MP who does precious little for her constituents, but does like to turn up for photo opportunities. If Cathy had got in touch with her, it would have done her no good whatever, because she would have either been totally ignored, Nicola not being good at answering letters, or being fobbed off, if she wanted to attend a surgery. She would have been told that there were no surgery appointments left. I speak from experience, living in her constituency. Hence it's being heavily targetted by the LibDems, and was a LibDem seat between 1997 and 2010, when Nicola Blackwood ran a particularly dirty campaign against the then MP.

Valentine2 · 17/05/2017 23:35

That's again a very blanket response piglet. Let me rephrase my question: did you just try to compare the "supporters" of a leader a party with how the "leader" of the other opposite party behaves herself? Is that the new base line now? We expect May to act like some random supporters of someone who talks decently? Is that what you are saying?
Why should the PM of our country be allowed to talk like she is a little school bully just because some Momentum people are running high on stuf??
But again, these are some weird times.

Clandestino · 17/05/2017 23:47

I can't believe the lie Corbyn's supporters still seem to live in. Somewhere in your heads you created an alternative universe where Corbyn is a powerful and charismatic politician who will rise from the ashes like Phoenix to beat the Tories.
Meanwhile, Labour are losing their ground rather spectacularly because their leader has all the charisma of a wet sock and changes his opinion on everything (starting with Brexit) while Abbot manages to make herself a laughing stock wherever she goes. But hey, keep blaming the Labour losses and Corbyn's unpopularity on the bad media and stupid voters influenced by the likes of the Daily Fail and all will be fine. You just need to hurl more insults on the ex-Labour supporters instead of proper self-reflection and loss analysis.

MrsSummerisle · 17/05/2017 23:53

the Corbyn juggernaut

I don't think that word means what you think it means! Grin Grin Grin

Valentine2 · 18/05/2017 00:33

Clandestino
I have not decided which way to vote yet. I won't vote Tories though.
What gets me though is the rough, off hand manner in which people try to dismiss every sense of deep analysis these days. If you look closely at my post, I am sure you will easily see that I have questioned another poster on comparing apples with pears or whatever.
Just because you are disillusioned of your ex party, Tory or Labour, doesn't mean we should let people keep getting away with baseless arguments. For example, the above argument by piglet, if it could be called an argument that is (its sneering mainly), is only going to earn a dismissal in my ex work place.
Politics is running this country. No use making fun of every major politician right left and centre. No use not doing proper arguments with comparable parameters. Its all blah blah blah otherwise.

CheeseQueen · 18/05/2017 01:07

Not read all the responses as it's late (early?) and I need to go to bed....just need to say WTF is a Corbyn juggernaut?!! Grin