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Emily Thornberry

286 replies

LovelyBath77 · 14/05/2017 16:51

Just saw an interview with this woman and how irritating is she? I thought Diane Abbot was bad but she is dreadful!

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derxa · 14/05/2017 20:14

As for white van man gate or whatever, can someone tell me what is so great and uniquely English working class about a white man who drives a white van, likely reads the Sun and drapes the house in St George flags? Is that seriously representative of the great British working class? I hardly think so
Well this is how the SNP have become so successful.
Substitute some words.
As for white van man gate or whatever, can someone tell me what is so great and uniquely Scottish working class about a white man who drives a white van, likely reads The Daily Record and drapes the house in the Scottish Saltire ? Is that seriously representative of the great Scottish working class? I hardly think so.
Nicola knows that these people are her voters. She knows how to talk to them because she grew up amongst them and goes out and campaigns in the street. I'm not an SNP voter by the way.
Thornberry views these people like the shit on her shoe.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 14/05/2017 20:16

And frankly the people trying to push the story that she was sneering at the working classes were probably NOT brought up in a council house

I was. Next question....

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 14/05/2017 20:18

I was born and raised in a succession of council flats.

derxa · 14/05/2017 20:18

And frankly the people trying to push the story that she was sneering at the working classes were probably NOT brought up in a council house - whereas Thornberry was.
Thornberry was born in north Surrey to Cedric Thornberry, an international lawyer and Visiting Professor of War Studies at King's College London, and his wife Sallie Thornberry, a teacher.[6] Her parents divorced when Thornberry was aged seven; with her two brothers, she lived with their mother who later became a Labour councillor and mayor.[7] Her father became a United Nations Assistant Secretary General and worked as a consultant for NATO.[8]

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 14/05/2017 20:20

Could you please tell me how I get the job? Is the 50cent army called the 50p army at CCHQ? Or are you an out sorced company?

Grow up. To notice that I am on the thread you must be too.

I am actually on here a lot at the moment as I am bed bound after having serious surgery, but carry on....

MitzyLeFrouf · 14/05/2017 20:20

I think anyone who claims to feel sick as a result of watching a fairly standard political television interview had better look closer to home before calling others unstable, tbh.

Yep. just switching the TV on must be hazardous for the poor love.

PerkingFaintly · 14/05/2017 20:22

Wasn't a question, Piglet, but you're right, I've left out part of the my sentence, which should have read:

"And frankly the people in the media trying to push the story that she was sneering at the working classes were probably NOT brought up in a council house - whereas Thornberry was."

In fact, I could add to that "and David Cameron", because he was well in there sneerily claiming Thornberry must be sneering....

PerkingFaintly · 14/05/2017 20:26

"This, despite Thornberry herself being brought up in a council house."
www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/21/emily-thornberry-resignation-explain-outside-britain

Not exactly a surprise that a single mother after a divorce is living in a council house. Enough people on here have been through rather significant changes of circumstance.

Sugarcoma · 14/05/2017 20:28

Lady Nugee, as she's actually called, since she's married to a high court judge, is not as bad as Abbott because rather than shun her local comps by sending her son to a private school she just sent him to an excellent selective state school 13 miles away.

/Sarcasm

Let's not she also bough an HA property to rent out privately.

PerkingFaintly · 14/05/2017 20:34

Well exactly. So any title is through marriage, to someone who got a title for doing his job.

Hardly the hereditary aristocracy like Samantha Cameron.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 14/05/2017 20:35

Is Samantha Cameron a MP herself? Why is she relevant?

PerkingFaintly · 14/05/2017 20:36

And for clarity, I don't think marrying the daughter of a baronet in any way disqualifies David Cameron or anyone else from being a decent politician serving their country well.

DC managed to disqualify himself from being a decent politician serving his country well, all on his own merits...

Zampa · 14/05/2017 20:38

I thought she was brilliant on Marr today. I wish more Labour representatives spent time on holding the Tories to account rather than in-fighting.

Completely agree with PPs on the white van debacle being a complete non-issue. It was a media creation.

MitzyLeFrouf · 14/05/2017 20:39

I thought she was great on Marr too. I didn't feel the slightest bit nauseous either.

derxa · 14/05/2017 20:41

Completely agree with PPs on the white van debacle being a complete non-issue. It was a media creation. It really wasn't.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 14/05/2017 20:43

Oh Lady Nugee

Well she is condescending and her point was pointless as issues in Syria were not what they are now

They can't hide from this that Corbyn has shown solidarity with the IRA when they were a serious threat to our country he had nothing to do any peace process and shared platforms with other terrorist supporters

PerkingFaintly · 14/05/2017 20:49

Yes, it obviously had resonance with a lot of people once the "appropriate meaning" had been helpfully added by the media.

But it was added. For comparison, what would the reaction of the same papers have been if the identical tweet had been made by Nigel Farage?

Completely different.

Because with Farage, those papers wouldn't have wanted to add a comment that he must be sneering at the working class.

In fact, they tend to steer away from that sort of connotation despite him being a commodity broker who didn't even realise Leave were ahead on referendum night because he was relying on his business and City sources which were calling it the wrong way.

And despite him describing members of UKIP as people he wouldn't want to have a drink with.

But oh no, Nige, man of the people.Hmm

PerkingFaintly · 14/05/2017 20:52

By the way, none of this is a comment on her performance on Marr. I didn't watch so don't know whether she was impressive or the complete opposite.

Jupitar · 14/05/2017 21:08

I love it that all the anti labour posters are here saying how bad she was and how she's putting everybody off voting labour.

Meanwhile all the pro labour groups on Facebook are sharing the interview because they think she did a good job pointing out what a hypocrite the Tory was.

SovietKitsch · 14/05/2017 21:19

Oh look, another thread probably started by a member of the Tory party election campaign feeding off our current right wing media's attempt to make the Labour Party into a mockery at every turn. The way even the BBC are reporting things is SO unbalanced.

There was so much made of the Diane Abbot interview when she got her figures wrong, with not reference made to the 4 or 5 interviews she'd done directly before it without incident.

Zampa · 14/05/2017 21:20

Exactly Jupitar. Confirmation bias!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 14/05/2017 21:21

Oh look, another thread probably started by a member of the Tory party election campaign feeding off our current right wing media's attempt to make the Labour Party into a mockery at every turn. The way even the BBC are reporting things is SO unbalanced.

Oh look another 'I don't agree with you so you must be a Tory plant' post.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 14/05/2017 21:23

There was so much made of the Diane Abbot interview when she got her figures wrong, with not reference made to the 4 or 5 interviews she'd done directly before it without incident.

Yep because it was extremely embarrassing and unprofessional. She hadn't been pressed on or even really mentioned her figures on the other interviews. Even if she had it isn't an excuse.

20nil · 14/05/2017 21:27

Not my favourite MP, but where was the equivalent outrage over Grant Shapps's tweets about Tory budget cuts for beer and bingo? How patronising was that?

SovietKitsch · 14/05/2017 21:29

The NHS is in crisis, schools are facing chronic underfunding, we are all facing certain economic hardship as Brexit takes shape and the Tories are talking about Fox Hunting. And yet the media think Labour are the laughing stock?!

And you can't see the right wing bias in the media Confused

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