To think we should just all vote for labour

[brexitstolemyfuture]

Renationalise the railways and energy companies.

Stoping any rises in pension age.

Taxing the top 5% to pay for oap social care.

No tax rises to people warning under 80k.

No to nuclear weapons.

Giving workers the right to strike.

Reverse legal aid cuts, giving the poorest people access to the legal system.

No target on immigration.

Banning driver only trains to keep the underground in safe hands.

Increased rights for the Roma.

Review of disability benefits changes.

Scraping tuition fees.

Honestly all such good ideas, we can get him ellected!

[ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe]

You forgot to put 'lighthearted' in your OP.

[Motheroffourdragons]

Sorry we joined the EU in 1973. I should have said maybe being in the EU for the past 44 years has kept us safe. Oops easy mistake, should have rounded down.

[Orlantina]

We could live in a society where we have low taxes, low corporation tax and encourage growth through industry. But then we'd need to invest in our schools and have free movement to help encourage and develop that growth - and growth brings in higher taxes.

OR

We could live in a society that has higher taxes but then uses the taxes to invest in schools and training so we have a workforce that helps businesses grow and invest. But the taxes shouldn't deter companies.

I think we want to live in a half way house between these 2 systems and that's not going to happen easily.

[ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe]

That's ok Mother, correct numbers are overrated anyway, as Labour never cease to remind us.

[ShatnersWig]

On most of these threads when it was pointed out a lot of these policies weren't costed so how were they being paid for, loads of Corbyn supporters said "scrapping Trident will cover several of these".

Leaked manifesto says Labour supports the renewal of the Trident submarine system.

So would people now like to a) re-explain where the £ is coming from
b) re-confirm they will vote for Labour because many of them said the scrapping of Trident was the main reason they would support him?

[Motheroffourdragons]

Maybe NATO also, who knows. I don't think us having nuclear weapons makes a blind bit of difference to our national safety, especially when what we are most at risk of is homegrown terror.

Trident won't help whether we have it or not. But Labour seem to be advocating renewal despite JCs personal issues with it.

[Biker47]

Sorry we joined the EU in 1973.

No we didn't.

[londonrach]

Op...you do realise labour is about to implode on themselves. They unelectable at the moment and tbh i dont think they want to be in power. This is the worse election ever as theres no one to vote for. Abit like the usa election last year.

[QuitMoaning]

Labour brought in tuition fees.
A fact they seem to conveniently forget.

[Motheroffourdragons]

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/25/a-timeline-of-britains-eu-membership-in-guardian-reporting

The Guardian says 1973, I'm happy with that. Ok I see, you mean EEC. Oh well.

[shakeyospeare]

God, some of you just want to watch the world burn.

"Jeremy Corbyn is not electable!"

"Where's the money coming from?"

"The Labour Party have ruined the economy"

"The Labour Party is a shambles!"

"I'm a Labour supporter but I just can't bring myself to vote..."

Whinge whinge whinge whinge whinge.

It's actually shameful how deep the media drills into our fears and twists the food and fair until we doubt everything. You might as well just parrot the Daily Mail and stop thinking for yourselves.

Go and actually do some research!

If you want more cuts, more austerity, and more bullying the poor whilst the Phillip Green's are sunning it up, vote Tory and be done with it.

If you actually think about what's important to YOU and YOUR family and YOUR community - NHS, education, a better quality of life, even if you are struggling with voting for a fair and honest man who has an impressive record of always doing the right thing, no matter how unpalatable it may seem to some, for god's sake, vote Labour and stop bloody whinging.

We are on the cusp of something either very great and a turning point to set a great example to the rest of the world, or. Or. We're on course to follow in the footsteps of Trump's America.

Get out from under the Daily bloody Hate and stop being sheep. We could seriously have a chance at everyone having a bright future not just those with millions in the bank and zero in compassion.

And FYI, Jeremy Corbyn has won the leadership contest within the party. Twice. Electable. He has grown the Labour Party to the biggest political party within Europe.

[ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe]

That's all lovely and warm and fuzzy, Shake, but where is the money going to come from?

Taxing won't bring it all in, and will be counterproductive long term, borrowing has to be repaid with interest.

Money tree?

[EnthusiasmIsDisturbed]

So they can't use the money saved from Trident but they are going to borrow £250b

That ok then I was worried they had got their sims wrong

[ShatnersWig]

I'm repeating myself on so many threads but BINGO!

"It's the media's fault"

No it isn't, we are not all sheep. We don't all have our opinions formed for us by the media and it is patronising as fuck to say it is. I SEE Corbyn at PMQs. I do not find him effective. I SEE and HEAR people like Abbott and Thornberry and McDonnell time and time again spouting total nonsense and showing themselves to be either out of touch or ill informed or inept. This is not Nick Robinson saying they are, I am making my own opinion by listening to these people's own words and behaviours.

Although maybe it's the media's fault simply for showing them, interviewing them, or giving them any air time.

And I am not a Tory voter.

Fuck off with your patronising shit.

[BelleTheSheepdog]

Its not just Jeremy Corbyn : The Labour Party as a force itself is gone really: a broad church that can appeal throughout Britain to a wide enough part of the people. You can't just keep on blaming the voters and the Daily Mail, can you?

[BelleTheSheepdog]

It's the old message of false consciousness, hung on the peg of the Daily Fail.

[Code42]

And we only have to borrow another £450 billion to do it! Lucky so many MN etters have multiple children: it's them who'll be paying for it

[fuckwitery]

Hello , the 1970's called - they want their manifesto back

[EnthusiasmIsDisturbed]

And the Tory party has low membership and is the most successful political party I believe in history

And labour had relatively low membership when it won THREE consecutive elections

Membership numbers mean fuck all as we shall see in the GE and have seen in the local elections and by elections

Corbyn with his dubious friends and history will never ever be elected as PM and neither will a far left Party

And really the Daily Mail right wing argument oh please come up with something better than that

[derxa]

He's having a laugh. In fact I think Jeremy knows Labour are going to lose and thinks Fuck It.

[arethereanyleftatall]

I have to say if ever there was a list to make sure I didn't vote for labour, then the op pretty much covers it.
I disagree with pretty much all the points made in the op, except the no tax rise on under 80.

[ShatnersWig]

Correct, Enthusiasm, the Tories have the lowest membership figures. Clearly, membership has sod all to do with voting.

Quite honestly, based on all the vitriol we've had about the Tories for the last 7 years (in coalition and not) and the way everyone says the NHS is being crucified etc, a half decent opposition should have WALKED this election. The fact they won't, and are so far behind in the polls (which admittedly can be wrong) is totally and utterly the fault of Labour choosing the wrong Leader twice. But the most recent time disastrously so.

[Gruffalosgrandma]

This rather resonates with me.

[muckypup73]

I am a lifelong Labour voter, I will be voting Green

[kimann]

?!?! I hope this is light hearted?!