To think we should just all vote for labour

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Renationalise the railways and energy companies.

Stoping any rises in pension age.

Taxing the top 5% to pay for oap social care.

No tax rises to people warning under 80k.

No to nuclear weapons.

Giving workers the right to strike.

Reverse legal aid cuts, giving the poorest people access to the legal system.

No target on immigration.

Banning driver only trains to keep the underground in safe hands.

Increased rights for the Roma.

Review of disability benefits changes.

Scraping tuition fees.

Honestly all such good ideas, we can get him ellected!

I'm sorry I now realise I was being derogatory about 2 year olds quite a few can count to 3! This is jezza we're talking about so we can't use force to nationalise google. I would suggest chatting to the shareholders and explain we really need their shares and offer them a falafel (i.e. Just replicate jezza plans to solve the Middle East problems)

I just had to copy this from a previous post as I totally agree with it:

This is what I love about politics in the UK, you can vote for someone who would do their honest best for the country, who may not be able to deliver on all their promises, but will have a damn good try. Or you could vote for a Party who will fuck you over, time and time again, but that's ok, because you know they're going to do it, and they'll deliver when they say that's what they are going to do.Words fail me!

Also, although I dont have the figures, I am fairly sure that UK spend less per head on health than most other countries. We all pay via taxes, it is not free. There are not enough doctors or nurses to fill current vacancies, which will be made worse with brexit, and not enough beds to make sure people are properly fit before discharge, GPs dont have enough time with each patient. It's not rocket science, the NHS needs more money and more staff. Spending on health will improve life in general, reduce sick leave, so more productive employees, more tax paid, just all round good. Investing in health makes economic sense. Similarly investing in housing, education, infrastructure could improve life and eventually benefit all. At the moment it feels like everything is being squeezed in the forlorn hope we will be able to make the books balance.

Yes we should all vote labour smile. They won't win so nothing to lose.

Absolutely, I agree.

Everyone on this thread [and in the UK] should vote Labour as they won't win anyway

And prolong the pain of Corbyn staying

I think I shall cast my vote elsewhere this time

I think rather than all these threads over the last few weeks saying who I should vote for I will make my own mind up. It's quite tedious now, we can all make our own choices.

No it isn't, we are not all sheep. We don't all have our opinions formed for us by the media and it is patronising as fuck to say it is. I SEE Corbyn at PMQs. I do not find him effective. I SEE and HEAR people like Abbott and Thornberry and McDonnell time and time again spouting total nonsense and showing themselves to be either out of touch or ill informed or inept. This is not Nick Robinson saying they are, I am making my own opinion by listening to these people's own words and behaviours

YY Well Said.

I think rather than all these threads over the last few weeks saying who I should vote for I will make my own mind up. It's quite tedious now, we can all make our own choices.

It will die down and just become as though everyone is voting labour as everyone else will have just given up, no one ever changes their mind by reading posts on social media, if people comment their mind is pretty much already made.

Well I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet. So I disagree

Haven't read the full thread but YANBU op, I think it's a fantastic manifesto which would make life better for most people.

I'm intrigued by the assertion that taxing the rich and companies more would cause a mass exodus when I see just as many claim that the world is desperate to do deals with us as we're such a large customer base etc. It can't be both surely?

I just had to copy this from a previous post I made up in my head:

This is what I love about politics in the UK, you can vote for a 2 year old who would do their honest best to climb mount Everest, who may not be able to actually get to the top, but will have a damn good try. Or you could vote for a Party who will say its hard, its very very hard, time and time again, but that's ok, because you know they're going to be sensible, and they'll not bankrupt the country. Words fail me!

Please think of the children.

LOL, just watching Newsnight rip the shreds out of JC. In an unbias comedic way of course lol Please will somebody just think of the children.

I'm watching it too

Again numbers seem to be an issue

It sounds lovely. The finance to pay for it is doubtful and the Labour front bench's ability to deliver any of it is even more doubtful.

Oh my

If I was advising May I would tell her the less said the better

Again numbers seem to be an issue

You don't say ...

But stop fixating on the numbers, lets talk about the policies.

MN just traps you into a form of words.

God he's being a right AssHat.

Anon213 the numbers are really important. You can live in a mansion with any car you want living the life of luxury just stop fixating on the numbers.

Anon, but it's a fallacy that the conservatives are safer with the economy. They have added more to the national debt than all labour governments since the war combined and this includes when labour built the NHS!

I know the press love to blame labour for the 'state' of our economy, but despite austerity massively failing to reduce the debt, they still press on with this policy deeper and deeper. But the real problem is, actual people are suffering massively for their policies which can only be explained as ideological given the facts.

The way I see it, if you keep on doing the same thing, you keep on getting the same result. The country took a massive gamble on the success of the U.K. by voting for Brexit, I think we should give Labour a chance even if it does seem too good to be true. We already know that the more left leaning socialist states like Finland, are amongst the happiest nations on Earth. The conservatives have spent much more time in office and I think we're quite a right wing nation generally and it hasn't worked. I think now's the time to give socialism a proper try.

Barry Gardiner almost had a heart attack trying to defend JCs manifesto on Newsnight.

We already know that the more left leaning socialist states like Finland, are amongst the happiest nations on Earth LOl seriously, we dont live in a socialist country. The UK is conservative. If you want to live in Finland, move there.

I've got no skin in the game... Or more politely I'm not a socialist/labour/leftie... On the numbers issue, when people are worried that increasing corporation tax will "drive out business" I'm genuinely baffled. The proposed increase just takes us back to where we were and it's still less than that lefty/ 'tax the rich' bastion the USA. Our rates of corporation tax even after labours so called radical proposal would still be less than the USA and Germany...

Yes OP we totally should

The proposed increase just takes us back to where we were
Yes and it raised LESS money when it was back where it was.