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AIBU to say only psychopaths support fox hunting

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lubeybooby · 10/05/2017 15:51

the kind who would laugh at and enjoy watching kittens being set on fire (animal cruelty especially early in lifeis a marker for psychopathic tendencies)

Because it's just the same as that. Animal cruelty plain and simple.

Imagine a group of thugs chasing a terrified animal to give it a horrible death

Now imagine they are posh people on horseback

VILE

Theresa May makes me angrier every day. Disgusting excuse of a person.

I don't give a shit if you live in the country or anywhere in fact and foxes are a nuisance to you - kill them humanely if you must!

OP posts:

kali110 · 11/05/2017 02:13

I completely understand controlling. The fox population, i may not agree with it but i understand in some parts it needs to be done.
I cannot justify hunting an animal to the point of exhaustion and then ripping it to shreds as 'population control'.
There is no justification to this. Some people enjoy the sick act of An Animal being torn to shreds.

Capricorn76 · 11/05/2017 04:43

I thought once a decision had been made we shouldn't try and reverse it? All that 'the people have spoken' stuff? The decision to end fox hunting was made, it is undemocratic to try and reverse it.

elkegel · 11/05/2017 05:13

Farming is nothing to do with hunting for sport, and most farmers in this country look after their animals extremely well.

Beyondworried · 11/05/2017 06:17

YANBU
As an ex-hunter this has fuck all to do with pest control and everything to do with sport, tradition and fun. The Countryside Alliance try hard with spin..... changing the name cub hinting to Autumn hunting so it would sound more appealing. They must think people are pretty stupid.

BarbarianMum · 11/05/2017 06:18

Cricket I have yet to see people hunt foxes on horseback with dogs through the city streets.

Sleepdeprivedredhead · 11/05/2017 06:21

It only gets mileage because the hunters are the ones paying for the cons to get the time to write their policies. The cons don't have policies to bring back traditional farm work as that doesn't make a big fat profit for the landowners. But a bunch of people paying for stabling / kennels etc. That does.
The "tradition" argument is just a front. As usual the conservative policies are written by someone's chequebook.

Beyondworried · 11/05/2017 06:21

Therefore the hunted fox was a way of culling the old, weak and sick foxes and ensuring a healthy population

Oh thank god for that. As long as they are old, weak and sick it is perfectly acceptable to put a wild animal through the horror of hunting it down with a pack of hounds

This is the same bullshit the Countryside Alliance spew out.
When I used to hunt the master preferred younger foxes as they gave hounds a good run.

BarbarianMum · 11/05/2017 06:23

What about all the cubs hunts dig up to "train" the dogs with. Are they old and weak and sick too?

DameDeDoubtance · 11/05/2017 06:28

There are no circumstances that justify getting making a sport out of slaughtering an animal, it is vile.

derxa · 11/05/2017 07:14

Let's hope nothing comes of this because it is just a complete waste of time and energy.

Fueledwithfairydustandgin · 11/05/2017 07:17

I detest hunting. I have horses, our business is horses, we live in the country so in no way is it a class thing for me. I'm not jealous of you if you hunt I can promise you that. What frustrates me the most is the lack of honesty. You aren't going out to control a population. Do you get your posh clothes on to go and help the farmer when he has a rat problem? No because that's not as fun is it? You aren't doing it to help chickens or to save foxes from other killing methods you are doing it for your own enjoyment. Some of you are sick individuals who take pleasure in fear and pain and some of you turn a blind eye because you enjoy the "sport". I have no issue whatsoever with shooting your own meat or with a farmer protecting his livestock but hunting is an inefficient, cruel, outdated practice.

Frillyhorseyknickers · 11/05/2017 07:26

The Countryside Alliance try hard with spin..... changing the name cub hinting to Autumn hunting so it would sound more appealing. They must think people are pretty stupid.

It was changed to autumn hunting post ban, to take account of the fact that we were no longer cub hunting - that's a fairly obvious fact without any agenda to it.

Frillyhorseyknickers · 11/05/2017 07:41

2. Want to control the fox population? Fine. There are much more efficient ways of doing it.

Quite a few people have said this on the thread but no one has elaborated so perhaps you can?

I've explained in my first post why fox hunting is favoured over rifling to ensure the healthy population is left and how hunting allows the sick, old and weak to be culled. Rifling is not efficient in that it is not selective over which foxes are shot, and shooting a sucked vixen who has a litter of cubs to feed is firstly fucking awful but secondly massively upsets the local population demographic.

I won't try to sway anyone's opinion on fox hunting because we're all entitled to our views. I refuse to be labelled as someone akin to setting kittens on fire as per the OPs post but really that just demonstrates their own ignorance into predation control.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 11/05/2017 07:41

We see them go out in our village. Last time they were out our garden gate was open and the Fox hid in our garden. Next time I'll leave the gate open on purpose.

Fueledwithfairydustandgin · 11/05/2017 07:44

Just because someone shoots foxes doesn't mean they won't respect the seasons. If we need to control species it is our responsibility to ensure it is done in the most humane way and fox hunting isn't it

LadyPW · 11/05/2017 07:49

Rifling is not efficient in that it is not selective over which foxes are shot, and shooting a sucked vixen who has a litter of cubs to feed is firstly fucking awful but secondly massively upsets the local population demographic.
And the dogs stop and ask a fox if she has any dependants before chasing her down and killing her?

sticklebrix · 11/05/2017 07:50

Not impressed with that link aliphil . The VAWM says that it is:

''Supported by over 540 members of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons''

Which sounds persuasive until you learn that the RCVS had almost 20,000 vet registrations in 2014. Most of them do not support the the statement you quoted.

LadyPW · 11/05/2017 07:51

Last time they were out our garden gate was open and the Fox hid in our garden. Next time I'll leave the gate open on purpose.
I'd be out there with a flashing neon sign saying 'foxes: safety this way' and a taxi service to get them there quicker...

BlindAssassin1 · 11/05/2017 07:51

Ironically there is brand new evidence to suggest that hounds are spreading tb across the land (a few dogs were destroyed recently). Given who controls the hunting discourse (farmers/rich toffs) i wonder if this will curb the badger cull. I expect not and they will continue to ride recklessly across the countyside and we'll pay £7k per badger kill.

StarkintheSouth · 11/05/2017 08:05

I'm from the country and whilst I understand the need to control the fox population I don't understand why it is done this way. It's beyond barbaric. It's torture. At least with regular rifle hunting the death is (usually) very quick and the animal is eaten, not left to rot. With everything that's going on right now I can't believe she's wasting time on such a horrific thing- oh, it's probably to appease all her rich pals ain't it...?

Frillyhorseyknickers · 11/05/2017 08:09

and the dogs stop and ask a fox if she has any dependants before chasing her down and killing her?

🙄 Really, can you not read?

I stated earlier in the thread that hunting has a season. We obviously do not hunt during March to October because that is their breeding season.

BeMorePanda · 11/05/2017 08:10

I thought once a decision had been made we shouldn't try and reverse it? All that 'the people have spoken' stuff? The decision to end fox hunting was made, it is undemocratic to try and reverse it.

Ah but Capricorn the law was passed by silly old Parliament, so apparently isn't the "will of the fucking people".

HashiAsLarry · 11/05/2017 08:13

so apparently isn't the "will of the fucking people".
Of course, because the will of the people in this case would most likely be very against overturning this. Therefore the definition of people has to change according to which decision needs to be made

LadyPW · 11/05/2017 08:22

Really, can you not read? I stated earlier in the thread that hunting has a season. We obviously do not hunt during March to October because that is their breeding season.
I apologise profusely for not having studied every single comment on here in detail, particularly yours. But you are demonstrating very well the arrogance usually associated with those who join the hunts. Have a to eat while you're watching an innocent fox ripped apart.

JanetBrown2015 · 11/05/2017 08:36

I am in favour of fox hunting. Lots of people are particularly those who live in the country.

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